[Bug 43424] In category display, optionally also include subcategories in alphabetic listing
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43424 Andreas Praefcke m...@andreas-praefcke.de changed: What|Removed |Added CC||m...@andreas-praefcke.de --- Comment #7 from Andreas Praefcke m...@andreas-praefcke.de --- This is _the_ one main failure of MediaWiki that prevents Wikimedia Commons from being useful for users that are not hardcore Wikipedians. It should be top priority, since it is way more important to finally tackle this than all the crap that Wikimedia Foundation has been founding over the last couple of years. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 43424] In category display, optionally also include subcategories in alphabetic listing
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43424 Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #8 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org --- Expressing disagreement is fine, but please watch your language. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 43424] In category display, optionally also include subcategories in alphabetic listing
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43424 --- Comment #6 from sj...@seznam.cz --- The tool FastCCI - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:FastCCI - use a function displaying images from the category and its subcategories together. For now, this function displays only images filtered by 3 predefined filters (images tagged as the best). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 43424] In category display, optionally also include subcategories in alphabetic listing
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43424 sj...@seznam.cz changed: What|Removed |Added CC||sj...@seznam.cz --- Comment #4 from sj...@seznam.cz --- The requiered feature would be very useful for images at Wikimedia Commons. An example: we have a category of a town which contains 150 photographs (and none subcategories). It is very pleasant and easy to see all images from the town - but difficult to find a photo of any certain place. As soon as somebody creates a structure of subcategories by street, by building, by subject, by event etc., it become very easy to find any place but very difficult and protracted to see and compare all photos. We need a feature which will keep (enable) advantages of the simple category even when the content is still precisely structured. See also the discussion https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Categories_for_discussion/2013/03/Category:Trams_in_Prague . What is better: to sort images of vehicles by fleet number (some categories can include only 1 or 2 images, some include tens of images) - or to sort images of trams only by type (by model) - so some categories will contain hundreds images, a certain vehicle would be unfoundable and a non-expert uploader would be not able to categorize by type (while the fleet number can read whatever)? The required feature would enable to view all images of certain model without destroying the categorization substructure unreversibly. If the new feature will be considered, - view switch (simple view/deep view) should be at the category page - a depth should be choosable (number of levels of subcategories) - the feature can be arranged similarly as filter functions (display all content/display featured articles-images only/displays stubs only etc.). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 43424] In category display, optionally also include subcategories in alphabetic listing
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43424 --- Comment #5 from sj...@seznam.cz --- See also Bug 59108 - Display filters and settings on category pages. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 43424] In category display, optionally also include subcategories in alphabetic listing
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43424 Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Unprioritized |Low -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 43424] In category display, optionally also include subcategories in alphabetic listing
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43424 --- Comment #1 from Bawolff (Brian Wolff) bawolff...@gmail.com --- Technically I imagine this would be straightforward You would be surprised ;) This is actually kind of hard to do (efficiently) given the way categories are currently stored. The additional problem with this is to what extent does one recurse into subcategories. Do you want all the articles in the subcategories of the subcategory as well? and so on. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 43424] In category display, optionally also include subcategories in alphabetic listing
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43424 --- Comment #2 from brian.bj.parke...@gmail.com --- (In reply to comment #1) The additional problem with this is to what extent does one recurse into subcategories. Do you want all the articles in the subcategories of the subcategory as well? and so on. Yes, it should list all the articles in all the subcategories, recursively. The use-case is when I, for example, want to look at *all* computing articles in alphabetical order, so I go to category computing and select this suggested option. (I should have made that clear in my original suggestion.) Technically I imagine this would be straightforward You would be surprised ;) This is actually kind of hard to do (efficiently) given the way categories are currently stored. Given the above answer, could the recursively collapsed one-level view not be precomputed (say nightly) and then quickly displayed? (it wouldn't matter if it could be slightly out of date, although the kess the better of course). I think it would be worth investigating, as the use case I give above is actually the most common usage of categories for me, and I do think if this option was available then the category system would be more useful, and be used more. Thanks for you comments. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 43424] In category display, optionally also include subcategories in alphabetic listing
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43424 --- Comment #3 from brian.bj.parke...@gmail.com --- (In reply to comment #1) Technically I imagine this would be straightforward You would be surprised ;) This is actually kind of hard to do (efficiently) given the way categories are currently stored. The additional problem with this is to what extent does one recurse into subcategories. Do you want all the articles in the subcategories of the subcategory as well? and so on. One further point to extend my suggestion above- it would also be good if there was some form of url that could go to a specified category with this suggested recursive option enabled. If this was so then hand-constructed indexes, such as [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Contents/Indexes]] could be largely replaced by such links to the appropriate category. Also, portals could include such a link to give an (automatically generated) exhaustive index to their respective articles. So even for readers who do not use the category system, this enhancement could allow enhanced browsing for them. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
