[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2014-01-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15434

--- Comment #108 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
 asked something like that around comment 47 but it's very hard: currently not
even WMF and its own changes have anything like a database stress budget.
(Too long a discussion for this bug.)

(In reply to comment #107)
 OTOH, there are some items like Special:Unwatched Pages for which the maximum
 of 5,000 pages makes the report silly for a wiki like English Wiktionary.

Then let's try to make such pages useful. :) You have a few options:
* extend unwatchedpages permission and let people use action=info on
individual pages (simple config change),
* file a consensual config change request to increase the number of results
shown for that page (it's probably not too expensive) + a core bug to add such
a configuration option,
* propose some way to make that special page more useful for all wikis.

You don't need a budget to reason about what's important for your wiki and why,
and clearly expose your use case/proposal in new bug reports. MediaWiki has so
many features that it's often extremely hard for devs to understand on their
own what's really important / has a true impact on any given wiki/community (it
is even for wiki regulars on wikis they don't know). If you don't document,
describe and argue for the needs of your wiki, nobody will do it for you. ;-)

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2014-01-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #109 from Dennis C. During dcdur...@gmail.com ---
Before embarking on one of your recommended courses of action:

Would it be possible for us to process the dump to get a list of unwatched
pages?

At Wiktionary we usually focus only on lemma entries, ie, not on inflected
forms like simple English plural nouns (much more common for languages like
Latin), so the actual list of what we care most about is much shorter than the
list of ALL unwatched pages. I could, with help from others at Wiktionary, run
some Perl scripts to create the desired listing of relevant entries if
unwatched or watched is an attribute on some XML dump file.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2014-01-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

--- Comment #106 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
I've checked all the pages listed at [[m:Special:PermaLink/7056706]] and they
look well (updated in the last month), except for 5 out of the 6 reports
disabled on en.wiki only... I'll check later what's happening with those and
file separately, I call this fixed.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2014-01-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #107 from Dennis C. During dcdur...@gmail.com ---
Thanks. I hope it stays fixed. There is some room for reduction in frequency or
elimination of certain reports. If wikis had so kind of resource budget for
maintenance reports, it would be possible for them to decide which reports were
worth it for them.

OTOH, there are some items like Special:Unwatched Pages for which the maximum
of 5,000 pages makes the report silly for a wiki like English Wiktionary. That
is connected to the larger question of watchlist editing.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2014-01-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|PATCH_TO_REVIEW |NEW

--- Comment #103 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
Merged:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/33713/
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/79279/
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/84632/
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/84635/
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/95889/
Abandoned:
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/95876/


Not sure which further steps need to be performed to fix this ticket; outlining
them would be welcome.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2014-01-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #104 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
The plan as per comment 70 and comment 82 has been implemented. If someone can
just have a crosswiki look at the special pages to ensure they're being updated
correctly and at the ganglia graphs to check nothing is going to explode in our
face soon, we can confirm it's all done.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2014-01-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #105 from Sean Pringle sprin...@wikimedia.org ---
These queries were fine in December after Nemo's last patch, plus Tim fixed a
related load balancing bug allowing me to properly segregate them. So from DB
perspective, seems ok.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-11-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #102 from Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org ---
Change 95889 merged by Springle:
Make the monthly querypages updates not hit each cluster on the same day

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95889

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-11-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #99 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
Yep, as anticipated in comment 93 the monthly updates will need to be resorted
so that they don't all happen on the same day. I'll submit a patch later today
if nobody beats me at it.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-11-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #100 from Max Semenik maxsem.w...@gmail.com ---
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95876

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-11-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org changed:

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-11-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #101 from Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org ---
Change 95889 had a related patch set uploaded by Nemo bis:
Make the monthly querypages updates not hit each cluster on the same day

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/95889

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-11-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com changed:

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 CC||maxsem.w...@gmail.com,
   ||s...@reedyboy.net

--- Comment #97 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com ---
I believe this is relevant (from
https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Server_Admin_Logoldid=89461):

---

== November 17 ==
01:35 Reedy: Killed updateSpecialPages and related processes on terbium
01:18 MaxSem: Killed a few long queries on db1007
01:08 MaxSem: db1007 is having tough times due to special page updates

---

Both seemed to agree that staggering the updates would sufficiently help.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-11-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #98 from Sean Pringle sprin...@wikimedia.org ---
Staggering things more would be fantastic. Batching even.

Note that as per db-eqiad.php Query::recache (which I think these count as)
stuff has been pointed to the snapshot slaves, of which db1007 is one, and they
are LB=1 for normal traffic.

So technically if those slaves get thrashed it's not a show stopper and we
could simply dial back icinga noise for a while. Still...

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-10-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #93 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
Update on the plan as per comment 70 and comment 82: the monthly update of all
6 disabled pages on all wikis worked, while for the update of the 6 additional
en.wiki disabled special pages we have to wait for tomorrow
([[Special:MostLinkedTemplates]]).

To say what above I checked all the 12 pages on en.wiki and one of the 6 pages
on a wiki of each cluster; I also gave a quick look to graphs like those linked
in comment 79 and there wasn't anything worth noting, though I'm thinking of
some improvements to the crontabs.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-10-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #94 from Danny B. dann...@email.cz ---
(In reply to comment #90)
 As said above, the update is now set to be monthly. In 5 days from now we
 should see the stream of updates.

It is 15 days from now and many pages are still not updated.

Broken Redirects, Double Redirects, Uncategorized Pages, Uncategorized
Templates, Uncategorized Categories, Wanted Categories, Wanted Templates,
Wanted Files, Most Linked Templates,  @ cs wikis: 10 Sep

Most Linked Pages says 13 Oct  that update is OFF which seems weird to me.

These are just some, not necessarily all, because I was not checking all of
them.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-10-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #95 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
(In reply to comment #94)
 It is 15 days from now and many pages are still not updated.
 
 Broken Redirects, Double Redirects, Uncategorized Pages, Uncategorized
 Templates, Uncategorized Categories, Wanted Categories, Wanted Templates,
 Wanted Files, Most Linked Templates,  @ cs wikis: 10 Sep

For the Nth time: that's bug 53227.

 
 Most Linked Pages says 13 Oct  that update is OFF which seems weird to me.

It's weird only for those not reading the summary of this bug, which is about
DISABLED special pages.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-10-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #96 from Danny B. dann...@email.cz ---
(In reply to comment #95)
 (In reply to comment #94)
  It is 15 days from now and many pages are still not updated.
  
  Broken Redirects, Double Redirects, Uncategorized Pages, Uncategorized
  Templates, Uncategorized Categories, Wanted Categories, Wanted Templates,
  Wanted Files, Most Linked Templates,  @ cs wikis: 10 Sep
 
 For the Nth time: that's bug 53227.

nth? It is the very first time mentioned on this page! It was neither in
blocking, depending nor see-also bugs, nor in any comment.



  Most Linked Pages says 13 Oct  that update is OFF which seems weird to me.
 
 It's weird only for those not reading the summary of this bug, which is about
 DISABLED special pages.

*I* made the summary of this bug 4,5 years ago :-P

If something is being updated even twice a year, it is not DISABLED, thus it
must not be written there. (Actually creating new bug for this issue.)

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-10-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Danny B. dann...@email.cz changed:

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   See Also||https://bugzilla.wikimedia.
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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-10-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #92 from Andyrom75 andyro...@hotmail.com ---
The special page that shows the most requested pages on
https://it.wikivoyage.org
(https://it.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Speciale:PagineRichieste) it hasn't been
updated since November 2012, it's almost 1 year!!!

Can someone help us to update it? The situation is becoming ridiculos

PS It's not the only one...

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-10-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Ata ato...@i.ua changed:

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--- Comment #89 from Ata ato...@i.ua ---
I came here from Wikisource. Special:WantedPages in enwikisource was last
updated 04:20, 16 October 2009. 
https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WantedPages
Unbelievable.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-10-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #90 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
As said above, the update is now set to be monthly. In 5 days from now we
should see the stream of updates.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-10-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #91 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com ---
(In reply to comment #89)
 I came here from Wikisource. Special:WantedPages in enwikisource was last
 updated 04:20, 16 October 2009. 
 https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WantedPages
 Unbelievable.

I wanted to refute this incredulousness with stats about how large the English
Wikisource is, but it turns out it's not very large. ;-)

MariaDB [enwikisource_p] select count(*) from pagelinks\G
*** 1. row ***
count(*): 8390968
1 row in set (8.53 sec)

MariaDB [enwikisource_p] select count(*) from page\G
*** 1. row ***
count(*): 1457066
1 row in set (0.41 sec)

I know it's difficult to believe, but the maintenance Special pages situation
_is_ improving, just very slowly. Unfortunately, enwikisource is considered a
large database (cf. https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/large.dblist), so even bug
46094 won't help here. Nemo's efforts should, though.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-10-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #88 from william...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #78)
 Coming from https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2013/34
 
 Half a year on all wikis? Quite a nonsense. :-/
 
 Small wikis with hundreds or thousands of articles can be simply updated much
 more often.
 
 Also, half a year update to very often changing special pages such as
 Uncategorized*, Double/Broken redirs etc. doesn't make a sense.
 
 Rather disable and hide such special pages completely than provide obsolete
 results for half a year which will only confuse people such as they do now.
 
 Why it wasn't scaled as suggested in proposal in comment #9?

I totally agree. Please make a more frequent updatr on small wikis.
.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-09-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #86 from Malafaya malaf...@clix.pt ---
Does this somehow fix the problem of special pages (all of them) currently not
being automatically refreshed?

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-09-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #87 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
(In reply to comment #86)
 Does this somehow fix the problem of special pages (all of them) currently
 not
 being automatically refreshed?

That's a separate issue with the separate cronjob on non-disabled special
pages.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-09-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #81 from Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org ---
Change 84635 had a related patch set uploaded by Nemo bis:
Periodical run of disabled special pages: make updates monthly

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84635

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-09-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #80 from Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org ---
Change 84632 had a related patch set uploaded by Nemo bis:
Periodical run of remaining currently disabled special pages on en.wiki

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84632

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-09-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org changed:

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-09-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #83 from Sean Pringle sprin...@wikimedia.org ---
I saw when these queries ran but didn't know what they were at the time. Thanks
for cc'ing me.

Don't make the mistake of thinking the databases are bored ;-) That's a
slippery slope. However, I'm ok with these jobs going ahead providing the slave
lag doesn't suffer unduly, and the innodb purge activity has enough chance to
keep-up/catch-up between jobs. The latter may mean using non-contiguous
day-of-month on cron jobs hitting the same shard.

But let's see how it goes. I'll merge it.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-09-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #85 from Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org ---
Change 84635 merged by Springle:
Periodical run of disabled special pages: make updates monthly

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84635

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-09-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #84 from Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org ---
Change 84632 merged by Springle:
Periodical run of remaining currently disabled special pages on en.wiki

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/84632

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-09-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed:

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 CC||sprin...@wikimedia.org

--- Comment #82 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
(In reply to comment #79)
 If, as it seems, the current setup is not going to kill the cluster :) , I'd
 proceed with some patches for step 2 or 3 as per comment 70 in a few days.

The other databases look even more bored, so I submitted two more patches to
make updates for the 6 reports in comment 70 monthly and to add updates for the
6 reports disabled on en.wiki only (with the current frequency i.e. every 6
months).
They will probably sit in gerrit for a while... or perhaps not, we'll see. I'm
told the new database guru is Sean Pringle, adding to cc. :)

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-09-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed:

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--- Comment #79 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
(In reply to comment #77)
 The fix has been approved but didn't go live on the server (puppet had been
 disabled), so we have to wait till next month (September 11-17) for updates
 to
 Special:MostLinked, to know how all this works.

It seems it's working, but we need to be cautious: I checked en.wiki for s1,
it.wiki for s2, fr.quote for s3, commons for s4 and they have been updated.
The ganglia graphs show that slave lag was not very significantly affected
(worst case probably s2 with some 1.5 s lag on one server; then Commons with an
average 1.4 s over two hours on one server), while other metrics were more. In
order:
https://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/?r=customcs=09%2F11%2F2013+00%3A00ce=9%2F12%2F2013+12%3A00tab=chvn=hreg[]=db10%2843|49|50|51|52%29
https://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/?r=customcs=09%2F12%2F2013+00%3A00ce=9%2F13%2F2013+12%3A00tab=chvn=hreg[]=db10%2802|09|18%29
https://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/?r=customcs=09%2F13%2F2013+00%3A00ce=9%2F14%2F2013+12%3A00tab=chvn=hreg[]=db10%2803|10|35%29
https://ganglia.wikimedia.org/latest/?r=customcs=09%2F14%2F2013+00%3A00ce=9%2F15%2F2013+12%3A00tab=chvn=hreg[]=db10%2804|11|20%29
(more eyeballs and conclusions/interpretations appreciated).

If, as it seems, the current setup is not going to kill the cluster :) , I'd
proceed with some patches for step 2 or 3 as per comment 70 in a few days.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-09-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #78 from Danny B. dann...@email.cz ---
Coming from https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2013/34

Half a year on all wikis? Quite a nonsense. :-/

Small wikis with hundreds or thousands of articles can be simply updated much
more often.

Also, half a year update to very often changing special pages such as
Uncategorized*, Double/Broken redirs etc. doesn't make a sense.

Rather disable and hide such special pages completely than provide obsolete
results for half a year which will only confuse people such as they do now.

Why it wasn't scaled as suggested in proposal in comment #9?

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-08-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #77 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
(In reply to comment #76)
 Change 79279 merged by ArielGlenn:
 Make SpecialPages Titlecase in misc::maintenance::updatequerypages
 
 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79279

The fix has been approved but didn't go live on the server (puppet had been
disabled), so we have to wait till next month (September 11-17) for updates to
Special:MostLinked, to know how all this works.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-08-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #76 from Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org ---
Change 79279 merged by ArielGlenn:
Make SpecialPages Titlecase in misc::maintenance::updatequerypages

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79279

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-08-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #71 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
(In reply to comment #70 by Nemo)
 So, this bug can now hopefully be considered (mostly) fixed, with its current
 summary, after mutante approved and fixed the change above.

Nemo: Let's close as RESOLVED FIXED then?

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-08-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #72 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
(In reply to comment #71)
 (In reply to comment #70 by Nemo)
  So, this bug can now hopefully be considered (mostly) fixed, with its 
  current
  summary, after mutante approved and fixed the change above.
 
 Nemo: Let's close as RESOLVED FIXED then?

I'm planning to check the results of the crontab later today.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-08-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #73 from Helder mybugs.m...@gmail.com ---
Aren't the pages
* https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:DeadendPages
* https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MostLinked
* https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MostRevisions
* https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WantedPages
* https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:FewestRevisions
* https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AncientPages
supposed to be updated? (the most recent update was in 2009)

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-08-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #74 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
(In reply to comment #73)
 Aren't the pages
 * https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:DeadendPages
 * https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MostLinked
 * https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MostRevisions
 * https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WantedPages
 * https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:FewestRevisions
 * https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AncientPages
 supposed to be updated? (the most recent update was in 2009)

No, only DeadendPages, on s1-5 as of today. However the update didn't work on
any of the wikis I checked on those DBs, whether big or small. :[
Can a shell user please check the logs on /home/mwdeploy/updateSpecialPages/ ?

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-08-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #75 from Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org ---
Change 79279 had a related patch set uploaded by Nemo bis:
Make SpecialPages Titlecase in misc::maintenance::updatequerypages

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/79279

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-08-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Gerrit Notification Bot gerritad...@wikimedia.org changed:

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-06-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #67 from Liangent liang...@gmail.com ---
Given this bug can't be resolved in short time, I made a version on Tool-Lab:

http://tools.wmflabs.org/liangent-php/index.php/zhwiki~~wgUseDatabaseMessages=0?title=Special:%E6%96%AD%E9%93%BE%E9%A1%B5%E9%9D%A2uselang=en

Let me know if your wiki wants this too.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-06-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #68 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
(In reply to comment #67)
 Given this bug can't be resolved in short time,

Actually, Asher gave green light for the patch, Reedy amended it and it could
be merged any time soon. :)

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-05-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Alex Monk (Krenair) kren...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #66 from Alex Monk (Krenair) kren...@gmail.com ---
*** Bug 48678 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-04-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed:

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--- Comment #65 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
*** Bug 47470 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-04-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Dereckson dereck...@espace-win.org changed:

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   See Also||https://bugzilla.wikimedia.
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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-03-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Tomasz W. Kozłowski odder.w...@gmail.com changed:

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-03-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com changed:

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 Depends on||46094

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-03-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #64 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com ---
(In reply to comment #3)
 For small projects like this one, generating such a page doesn't take more
 than a few seconds (1.69 sec in this case). Maybe special pages like these
 should be enabled in the updateSpecialPages.php, but only for a selected
 number of wikis (actually, most of them would fit here).

Related:

* bug 43668: Re-enable disabled Special pages on small wikis (wikis in
small.dblist)

* bug 46094: Re-enable disabled Special pages on medium wikis (wikis in
medium.dblist)

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-02-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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DavidL lamb...@orange.fr changed:

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--- Comment #62 from DavidL lamb...@orange.fr ---
From the log about times taken to update page on en.wiki, tasks can be
scheduled smartly, by using previous time read from log files.

For a total period of 2 months:
  - if it can run in less than 10m - once per 2 day
  - if it can run in less than 1h - once per 2 weeks
  - if it can run in less than 5h - once per month
  - longer - once per 2 months

I computed a time charge of about 7%.
I can attach the spreadsheet file I used (ODS format) if you wish.

Also, it would be good to review algorithms used to compute theses pages, and
maybe databases need refactoring to optimize such computations.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-02-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #63 from Sam Reed (reedy) s...@reedyboy.net ---
(In reply to comment #62)
 Also, it would be good to review algorithms used to compute theses pages, and
 maybe databases need refactoring to optimize such computations.

In most cases, it's probably not worth the overhead/cost of doing the
refactorings.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-02-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Sam Reed (reedy) s...@reedyboy.net changed:

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  Attachment #11692|application/octet-stream|text/x-log
  mime type||

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-02-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bug 15434 depends on bug 43668, which changed state.

Bug 43668 Summary: Re-enable disabled Special pages on small wikis (wikis in 
small.dblist)
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43668

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-01-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #59 from Sam Reed (reedy) s...@reedyboy.net ---
reedy@fenari:~$ time mwscript updateSpecialPages.php enwiki --override | tee
~/public_html/enwikispecialpages.log
Statistics 1m completed in 21.33s
ValidationStatistics   completed in 7.72s
Ancientpages   got 1000 rows in 3h 33m 10.58s
BrokenRedirectsgot 31 rows in 9m 12.57s
Deadendpages   got 617 rows in 2h 26m 22.34s
Disambiguationsgot 1000 rows in 13m 49.71s
DoubleRedirectsgot 223 rows in 4m 45.21s
FileDuplicateSearchcheap, skipped
LinkSearch cheap, skipped
Listredirects  got 1000 rows in 0.26s
Lonelypagesgot 1000 rows in 4m 16.68s
Longpages  cheap, skipped
MIMEsearch got 0 rows in 0.00s
Mostcategories got 1000 rows in 1h 12m 31.90s
Mostimages got 1000 rows in 11m 15.93s
Mostinterwikis got 1000 rows in 10m 9.26s
Mostlinkedcategories   cheap, skipped
Mostlinkedtemplatesgot 1000 rows in 4h 5m 54.14s
Mostlinked got 1000 rows in 18h 24m 55.82s
Mostrevisions  got 1000 rows in 14h 48m 27.91s
Fewestrevisionsgot 1000 rows in 13h 58m 12.41s
Shortpages cheap, skipped
Uncategorizedcategoriesgot 216 rows in 31m 28.03s
Uncategorizedpages got 125 rows in 29m 38.84s
Uncategorizedimagesgot 57 rows in 1m 13.81s
Uncategorizedtemplates got 1000 rows in 1.84s
Unusedcategories   got 1000 rows in 18.40s
Unusedimages   got 1000 rows in 18.55s
Wantedcategories   got 1000 rows in 17m 49.86s
Wantedfilesgot 1000 rows in 17m 57.45s
Wantedpagesgot 1000 rows in 7h 17m 20.02s
Wantedtemplatesgot 1000 rows in 1h 41m 22.78s
Unwatchedpages got 1000 rows in 1m 49.07s
Unusedtemplatesgot 1000 rows in 39.74s
Withoutinterwiki   got 1000 rows in 5m 41.06s

real4210m17.172s
user0m0.920s
sys 0m0.112s



^ Nearly 3 days to run

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-01-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #60 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
Created attachment 11715
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Update of all reports, also disabled, on de.wiki

Reedy also did de.wiki.
I commented on gerrit change 33713: The worst case is mostlinked, 18h on
en.wiki. It got to completion without problems and the hit slave (in pmtpa, now
idle after eqiad migration) had only few seconds of lag for few minutes every
now and then, no significant load. This seems safe enough to merge, even
significantly more cautious than needed.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-01-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #61 from Dennis C. During dcdur...@gmail.com ---
1. Can I take WP's experience as a reasonable indication of the relative oost
of various special pages in en.wikt, which probably has higher link density and
has many widely transcluded templates, but has mostly short pages?

2. We have been having some discussions, which seem to suggest that these runs
are not so useful as to warrant high frequency.

3. Furthermore, we seem to need more discrimination in, for example,
WantedPages, which we seem to be able to provide by working the dump. Even such
reports don't seem to be needed very frequently, as we don't yet have the
capability to break the list down by language, which would make it much more
useful.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-01-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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DavidL lamb...@orange.fr changed:

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-01-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #58 from Sam Reed (reedy) s...@reedyboy.net ---
Created attachment 11692
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Current log from update special pages log

It's missing the temporary disabled querypages for frwiki, but should be fairly
indicative for the time being

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-01-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #54 from Malafaya malaf...@clix.pt ---
The special pages haven't updated in 5 days at pt.wikt. Is it related to the
moving of servers?

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-01-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #55 from Malafaya malaf...@clix.pt ---
Check this link, for example:
https://pt.wiktionary.org/wiki/Especial:Categorias_pedidas

This one is 6 days old:
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciaal:GevraagdeCategorie%C3%ABn

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-01-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Sam Reed (reedy) s...@reedyboy.net changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Severity|major   |enhancement

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-01-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #56 from Sam Reed (reedy) s...@reedyboy.net ---
(In reply to comment #54)
 The special pages haven't updated in 5 days at pt.wikt. Is it related to the
 moving of servers?

Seems quite likely.

(In reply to comment #55)
 Check this link, for example:
 https://pt.wiktionary.org/wiki/Especial:Categorias_pedidas
 
 This one is 6 days old:
 https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciaal:GevraagdeCategorie%C3%ABn

Those aren't disabled special pages. This is not the correct bug.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-01-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #57 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
Malafaya: As this is not about Currently disabled special pages, I've copied
comment 54 and comment 55 to bug 44348.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-01-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Sam Reed (reedy) s...@reedyboy.net changed:

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 CC||m...@1ec5.org

--- Comment #53 from Sam Reed (reedy) s...@reedyboy.net ---
*** Bug 15755 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-01-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed:

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 Depends on||43668

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-01-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bug 15434 depends on bug 39667, which changed state.

Bug 39667 Summary: Divide wikis into database lists by approximate size for 
performance engineering
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39667

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Guillaume Paumier gpaum...@wikimedia.org changed:

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #48 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
(In reply to comment #47)
 Further (non-)updates: I sent an e-mail to wikitech-l on this about a week
 ago
 but got no feedback so far (I never have luck with wikitech-l emails ;) ).

Try again  make clear why it's an important issue  what you want to know? :)

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #49 from Jarry1250 jarry1...@gmail.com ---
Andre, can you chase this up with Ops? Open a RT ticket or something? 

https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/33713/ needs review and/or merging. Only Ops
can flick that switch, which is the bottleneck here.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #50 from Dennis C. During dcdur...@gmail.com ---
Would it be possible to do at least annual runs of WantedPages for principal
namespace on en.wiktionary.org? 

All the redlinks are annoying to look at. Some are valid terms that we would
want to include. Others just need to be unwikilinked because they would not
meet our standards for inclusion. I can understand why the smaller wikis get
more benefit for the resource cost, but the large wikis benefit as well. Even
if some dump processing could, in principle, generate the same content,
inclusive MW runs are good ways of catching idiosyncratic uses of the wiki,
some of which are undesirable.

Would you need a vote from en.wiktionary to support this?

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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JackPotte hubert.bos...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #51 from JackPotte hubert.bos...@gmail.com ---
and fr.wikt please ;)

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2013-01-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Bawolff (Brian Wolff) bawolff...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #52 from Bawolff (Brian Wolff) bawolff...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #50)
 Would you need a vote from en.wiktionary to support this?

That's unnecessary. We know everyone wants the special pages being run and I'm
sure that the moment we're sure they can be safely run, they will be.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2012-12-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #47 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it ---
Further (non-)updates: I sent an e-mail to wikitech-l on this about a week ago
but got no feedback so far (I never have luck with wikitech-l emails ;) ).
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/65463/

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2012-11-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #46 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it 2012-11-18 23:23:43 UTC ---
Bug 39667 is progressing, but in the meanwhile I've tried to suggest an
alternative approach at gerrit change 33713.
The idea would be to update only one page per cluster at a time, (one or) two
times per year: but for all wikis.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2012-11-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||42179

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2012-10-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #45 from Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il 2012-10-17 
10:36:23 UTC ---
So, here's another specific request from the Kyrgyz Wikipedia:
They find https://ky.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:DeadendPages useful for
improving their content and encouraging participation. Unfortunately, it was
last updated in 2009.

Is there really a significant performance problem with updating these pages?
I'm going through the comments here, and unless I'm missing something, no
actual examples of performance issues were given.

Bennylin suggested to define small wikis. Maybe instead of defining them we
could just put some time/CPU/RAM limit on the query?

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2012-10-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Dennis C. During dcdur...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #43 from Dennis C. During dcdur...@gmail.com 2012-10-11 17:08:05 
UTC ---
For English Wiktionary I would be very happy if this were run monthly or
quarterly limited to pages in principal namespace, wanted from pages in
principal namespace. An annual run to and from all spaces might be sufficient
for other maintenance, IMO.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2012-10-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #44 from John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com 2012-10-12 
03:20:39 UTC ---
Once a year would be good for large projects. They could then build
wikiprojects to manage the task of creating all important missing articles.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2012-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||39661

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2012-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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DavidL lamb...@orange.fr changed:

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   Severity|minor   |major

--- Comment #37 from DavidL lamb...@orange.fr 2012-08-26 13:16:18 UTC ---
Blocker bug cannot be minor.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2012-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com changed:

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 CC||alexander.sigac...@gmail.co
   ||m

--- Comment #38 from Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com 2012-08-26 14:40:02 UTC ---
*** Bug 1861 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2012-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #39 from Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com 2012-08-26 14:46:17 UTC ---
Currently disabled (last updated October 2009):

* DeadendPages
* AncientPages
* LonelyPages
* UncategorizedCategories
* WantedPages
* WantedTemplates

Currently disabled (last updated 2007):

* FewestRevisions

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2012-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #40 from MZMcBride b...@mzmcbride.com 2012-08-26 15:23:38 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #35)
 I can't agree with that at the moment. We are yet to have a comment here about
 which queries are do-able for smaller wikis; yet more might be optimisable
 enough to run on larger wikis. There's no way I can advocate sweeping these
 pages under the rug until that issue is looked into.

I split this issue out to bug 39667 (Divide wikis into database lists by
approximate size for performance engineering). Punishing small wikis due to
their larger brethren has never made sense. This needs to be fixed.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2012-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Servien serv...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #41 from Servien serv...@gmail.com 2012-08-26 19:53:36 UTC ---
If anyone can answer my, that would be great. If it can be turned on, that
would be even better.


Special:Wantedpages hasn't been updated since 2009 on the Low Saxon Wikipedia
(nds-nl), what is the reason for that, is it possible to turn this feature on?
Someone has compiled a list in the past for the Low Saxon Wikipedia using a
bot, unfortunately this user isn't active anymore. Is there someone who can
help me with this?

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2012-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it changed:

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--- Comment #42 from Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it 2012-08-26 20:07:09 UTC 
---
(In reply to comment #41)
 Special:Wantedpages hasn't been updated since 2009 on the Low Saxon Wikipedia
 (nds-nl), what is the reason for that, is it possible to turn this feature on?

Nobody really knows.

 Someone has compiled a list in the past for the Low Saxon Wikipedia using a
 bot, unfortunately this user isn't active anymore. Is there someone who can
 help me with this?

https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/DBQ

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2012-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it changed:

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 Depends on||39667

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2012-07-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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matanya matanya.mo...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #34 from matanya matanya.mo...@gmail.com 2012-07-23 07:25:05 UTC 
---
I think we can just remove those pages. The benefit is too low in compare to
what we gain.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2012-07-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #35 from Jarry1250 jarry1...@gmail.com 2012-07-23 08:40:38 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #34)
 I think we can just remove those pages. The benefit is too low in compare to
 what we gain.

I can't agree with that at the moment. We are yet to have a comment here about
which queries are do-able for smaller wikis; yet more might be optimisable
enough to run on larger wikis. There's no way I can advocate sweeping these
pages under the rug until that issue is looked into.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2012-07-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #36 from bennylin bknl...@yahoo.com 2012-07-23 09:54:40 UTC ---
For those who are active in smaller wikis who wishes to have updated stats, you
might as well download the dump, run it locally, and publish the result to your
community. I did it that way on id.wp. Granted it's not gonna be weekly, and
might not be feasible for larger ones, but I see that nobody shared this
before, so it's an option.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2012-05-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #33 from Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com 2012-05-12 
21:03:56 UTC ---
Any update?

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2011-10-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #32 from Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com 2011-10-28 21:48:17 UTC ---
Even without special more often treatment, having all wikis treated as big
wikis is good enough too. Anything is better than the current situation.

Last update October 2009...

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2011-09-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #31 from bennylin bknl...@yahoo.com 2011-09-26 12:37:18 UTC ---
(In reply to comment #9)
 Not only Special:WantedPages needs to be updated because of being disabled -
 changing the summary.
 
 I guess monthly update of all of them on all projects spreading the work
 through entire month (say each day run update of currently disabled special
 pages on 1/30 of wikis or some other division) could work.
 
 It wouldn't be too expensive at once (server side need) and it's pretty enough
 for users - better than the current nothing (client side need). Both 
 satisfied.
 
 Less expensive pages currently disabled could be ran weekly on the same
 principle...
 
 Also, small wikis, as been said in comments above, have these pages very
 inexpensive, so they could be ran daily as they used to be. Maybe some 
 weighing
 according to the # of pages could work as well, say (eg.) sites with 1-10k
 pages daily, 10k-100k weekly, 100k-300k bi-weekly, 300k+ monthly or so...
 
 Any other solution than permanent disabling is better.

Agree with Danny. Should define small wikis first.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2011-08-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15434

Reedy s...@reedyboy.net changed:

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 CC||lamb...@orange.fr

--- Comment #30 from Reedy s...@reedyboy.net 2011-08-18 13:06:48 UTC ---
*** Bug 30439 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2011-07-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Reedy s...@reedyboy.net changed:

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 Blocks||29782

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2011-06-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed:

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 Status|ASSIGNED|NEW
 CC||tstarl...@wikimedia.org
 AssignedTo|pdha...@wikimedia.org   |wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.
   ||org

--- Comment #29 from Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org 2011-06-30 
15:57:25 UTC ---
Tim has said some queries should never be run.  I've asked him to add a list
here, but I suspect they are the same ones that are listed in Comment #18.

Also, need to find someone in Ops to schedule runs of the other queries since
pdhanda probably won't have a chance to do it.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2011-06-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed:

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 AssignedTo|has...@free.fr  |pdha...@wikimedia.org

--- Comment #28 from Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org 2011-06-17 
23:45:22 UTC ---
pdhanda is supposed to figure out a schedule to get these updates to run more
often  we also plan on being updating the page to say the NEXT time it will
run.

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2011-05-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com changed:

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 CC||parker0...@gmail.com

--- Comment #27 from Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com 2011-05-15 09:51:02 
UTC ---
*** Bug 9265 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Bug 15434] Periodical run of currently disabled special pages

2011-05-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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p858snake p858sn...@gmail.com changed:

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 CC||amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.i
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--- Comment #26 from p858snake p858sn...@gmail.com 2011-05-04 06:27:58 UTC ---
*** Bug 28710 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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