[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added CC||jared.zimmerman@wikimedia.o ||rg --- Comment #79 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org --- What you are saying is: the complexity of this problem is to decide the UX, after that the technical implementation should be simple. Correct? Is it worth discussing UX solutions in the context of VisualEditor UX and/or Winter UX, trying to adapt whatever decision to barebones MediaWiki? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Jared Zimmerman (WMF) jared.zimmer...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |ASSIGNED Assignee|wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. |bhar...@wikimedia.org |org | Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #80 from Jared Zimmerman (WMF) jared.zimmer...@wikimedia.org --- Quim, I totally misunderstood this bug. This is being handled via the Winter work, assigning to brandon. see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Winter -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section of a page/article
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Quiddity pandiculat...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|Add section edit link for |Add section edit link for |1st/header section of a |0th section of a |page/article. |page/article --- Comment #81 from Quiddity pandiculat...@gmail.com --- (In reply to Quim Gil from comment #79) What you are saying is: the complexity of this problem is to decide the UX, after that the technical implementation should be simple. Correct? I believe so. See Comment #38 in particular. The issue with the existing gadgets/scripts, was historically that they: (A) interfere with right-floated top-icons (Featured article stars, Protection padlocks, etc), eg http://i.imgur.com/KFXDc0a.png This is still the case for users (like me) who use the Gadget Move section [edit] links to the right side of the screen. (B) Are ambiguous. (Ie. a newcomer might expect that top-right-link will let them edit the whole article) Nowadays, with Vector's current left-floating edit-links, it looks like this, http://i.imgur.com/3Tvz7Lu.png Which makes problem (B) even worse. Changing the wording for this link only, has been suggested before as the solution. Edit intro had unanimous agreement in the last (August 2012) discussion at Enwiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29/Archive_92#Activate_section_0_edit_link_for_everyone I'm not sure why that didn't get pushed through afterwards. With VisualEditor added in, it gets a bit more complicated... On Enwiki, we'd end up with this: [edit intro source] [edit intro ^beta] The code is easy. Where to put the links (and how to label them) is not. Is it worth discussing UX solutions in the context of VisualEditor UX and/or Winter UX, trying to adapt whatever decision to barebones MediaWiki? Yes. Because other skins, and other sites. (In reply to Jared Zimmerman (WMF) from comment #80) It's called section 0 (by everyone, hence I'm renaming back) because that is the name in the URL, eg. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Foobaraction=editsection=0 (Whereas if you click [edit] on the first H2 header, it goes to section=1) Note on stats: According to [[Wikipedia:Database_reports/User_preferences]], at Enwiki, there are 23,691 editors who use the edittop Gadget, and 954 editors who use the righteditlinks Gadget. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Normal |Lowest CC||dga...@wikimedia.org, ||q...@wikimedia.org Version|1.16.x |1.23-git --- Comment #76 from Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org --- The fact is that nobody is working or planning to work on this. Not only in the plain wikitext interface, for what I can see VisualEditor and Winter don't have a concept for editing the first sections separately. In fact VisualEditor got rid of the concept of editing sections. This request, reported almost a decade ago, pointed to a solution instead of a problem: Add section edit link for 0th section. The problem mentioned was This is especially bad if the page is very large where the complete page has to be loaded and saved back to the database. I would welcome a reassessment of this problem under the light of VisualEditor, and opinions on whether it is still worth keeping this request open, or resolve it as WONTFIX. In the meantime I'm changing the resolution to Lowest in order to reflect the current situation. Feel free changing it if you want to work on this. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 --- Comment #77 from Daniel Friesen mediawiki-b...@nadir-seen-fire.com --- (In reply to Quim Gil from comment #76) I would welcome a reassessment of this problem under the light of VisualEditor, and opinions on whether it is still worth keeping this request open, or resolve it as WONTFIX. IIRC VE works with deltas so a VE section edit mode would send back to the database the same minimal amount of data in a section edit mode as it would when editing a small bit of an entire page. Also they were hoping for the parsoid DOM to be capable of being served as the page contents themselves so the download the whole page part would be eliminated as well since someone reading the article to hit edit section would already have the whole page parsoid DOM. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Lowest |Normal Status|NEW |UNCONFIRMED Ever confirmed|1 |0 --- Comment #78 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it --- This is not lowest priority. Solving the bug is easy, the problem is that a design has not been agreed upon. Setting UNCONFIRMED again, nobody proposed alternatives. At this point I'm afraid the only solution may be a user preference... Another solution that would probably be approved easily enough if someone submits a patch is section edit on double click (when the corresponding preference is enabled). (In reply to Chad H. from comment #58) It's not a big issue. It's very very trivial to add a section link for the 0th section. The issue has been on where to put it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 --- Comment #74 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org --- As the Target Milestone on this ticket has been set to 1.22.0: According to http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2013-September/072030.html MediaWiki 1.22 is slated for release on November 30th, at the very latest. If this is still intended to get fixed for 1.22.0, a patch is needed soon. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Target Milestone|1.22.0 release |Future release --- Comment #75 from Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com --- Doesn't seem plausible to me, to be honest, so I'm removing it. Sadly I ended up doing other things and I won't have as much free time now. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Target Milestone|Future release |--- -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Assignee|matma@gmail.com |wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. ||org -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||48717 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added URL|http://transgender-taiwan.o | |rg/index.php?title=推薦usela | |ng=en | Assignee|wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia. |matma@gmail.com |org | Target Milestone|--- |1.22.0 release --- Comment #72 from Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com --- I'm going to work on this. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 --- Comment #73 from Daniel Friesen mediawiki-b...@nadir-seen-fire.com --- (In reply to comment #72) I'm going to work on this. This bug isn't a simple technical fix. There is a lot of debate over the right way to do it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Bug 156 depends on bug 41729, which changed state. Bug 41729 Summary: Tidy up and deploy Vector's sectionEditLinks (move section edit links next to headers) https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41729 What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Liangent liang...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||jida...@jidanni.org --- Comment #71 from Liangent liang...@gmail.com --- *** Bug 47416 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||matma@gmail.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Depends on||41729 --- Comment #70 from James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org --- This can be trivially fixed in the manner done for plwiki when bug 41729 is resolved. Adding as a dependency. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
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[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|UNCONFIRMED CC||federicol...@tiscali.it Ever confirmed|1 |0 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #67 from James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org --- Of the many things this is not, UNCONFIRMED is probably the top of the list. Not sure why it was set to this state? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 --- Comment #68 from Nemo federicol...@tiscali.it --- (In reply to comment #67) Not sure why it was set to this state? How to express that something is likely to be wontfix'ed? It's almost impossible to find an acceptable way to do this. I like this feature a lot as super-user, and it looks good enough on monobook where a 0 tab takes very little space, but most implementations are unacceptable. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 --- Comment #69 from Bartosz Dziewoński matma@gmail.com --- This has been implemented and enabled by default on pl.wikipedia for years. I've never heard any complaints. Example page: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zręczyce This works in pair with moving the edit links next to headings and making them smaller; this way, we can implement the edit link for 0th section in a similar way. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Dereckson dereck...@espace-win.org changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||design Priority|Low |Normal CC||dereck...@espace-win.org --- Comment #66 from Dereckson dereck...@espace-win.org --- Adding a design keyword to get feedback from designers. Raising priority from low to normal. As this is an often required thing by several wikis, outside the foundation wikis, we should at lease settle to offer the section edit link as an option. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Dereckson dereck...@espace-win.org changed: What|Removed |Added CC||bhar...@wikimedia.org -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added CC||suma...@wikimedia.org --- Comment #63 from Sumana Harihareswara suma...@wikimedia.org 2012-08-24 21:18:50 UTC --- Adding link to a Wikipedia Village Pump discussion about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28proposals%29oldid=508962495#Activate_section_0_edit_link_for_everyone Conclusion: There is a strong consensus in favour of the proposal in principle. Several editors raise concerns that the section 0 link might be confusing for editors (particularly new, but also experienced editors who weren't expecting it) and these concerns are worthy of consideration. Support for the revised proposal to label the link in a way that would not cause confusion was unanimous. I recommend that the wording of the link be worked out, and then that the applicable modifications be made to the interface, via a Bugzilla request if developer intervention is required. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 --- Comment #64 from Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com 2012-08-24 21:38:02 UTC --- The main problem here is finding a good user interface for it. Especially avoiding further complication of the user interface. Putting an [edit] link on top looks weird and out of place, because as pointed out there is no heading for it. So far we've managed by holding up that to edit the text before the first section, use the main Edit tab for the entire page. Its not ideal, but it works without problems. A better editor will take care of this problem, for example in VisualEditor. So is this really a problem in the long term? If so, we'll need to figure out a way to do it without compromising the interface. I don't see a way to do that. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 --- Comment #65 from Mark Hurd markeh...@gmail.com 2012-08-25 03:19:01 UTC --- I believe my current settings have the show edit section 0 and show [edit]s on the RHS, rather than next to the heading text settings on and as far as I know no other settings adjust these. For me the [edit] links all line up on the RHS of the page (I know there are variances when there are images on the RHS, but that's OK) including the section 0 [edit]. They all have tooltips saying Edit section: section title, except for section 0 which just says Edit section: 0. The edit section 0 link is on the page heading and a long way a way from the edit this page tab (in Monobook). It is not quite as far apart in Vector, where the edit the whole page tab is just called Edit. Perhaps Vector's Edit needs to be expanded to Edit this page, like Monobook. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Mark Hurd markeh...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||markeh...@gmail.com --- Comment #62 from Mark Hurd markeh...@gmail.com 2012-03-22 07:02:13 UTC --- Note that section=0 is different to all other headings where subheadings ARE included in the edit. If I cared enough I'd add a new suggestion that existing [edit]s only edit their section and not subsections. Again this would need to be a configurable option to avoid retraining everyone... -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Jan Kucera (Kozuch) garba...@seznam.cz changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Low |Highest CC||garba...@seznam.cz --- Comment #62 from Jan Kucera (Kozuch) garba...@seznam.cz 2011-12-30 15:44:53 UTC --- Because of votes rasing importance/priority according to following scheme: 15+ votes - highest 5-15 votes - high Community must have a voice within development. Regards, Kozuch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kozuch -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Bugmeister Bot mhershber...@wikimedia.org changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|Highest |Low CC|garba...@seznam.cz | -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156
Bruno De Fraine bruno-...@defraine.net changed:
What|Removed |Added
CC||bruno-...@defraine.net
--- Comment #61 from Bruno De Fraine bruno-...@defraine.net 2011-05-18
11:04:13 UTC ---
If you want to enable this for your own MediaWiki installation, there is still
some leftover code in Parser.php that makes it quite easy:
Index: includes/parser/Parser.php
===
--- includes/parser/Parser.php(revision 87502)
+++ includes/parser/Parser.php(working copy)
@@ -3809,13 +3809,14 @@
$i = 0;
foreach( $blocks as $block ) {
-if( $showEditLink $headlineCount 0 $i == 0 $block !==
\n ) {
+if( $showEditLink $headlineCount 0 $i == 0 $block !==
) {
# This is the [edit] link that appears for the top block of
text when
# section editing is enabled
# Disabled because it broke block formatting
# For example, a bullet point in the top line
# $full .= $sk-editSectionLink(0);
+$full .= $sk-editSectionLink($this-mTitle, 0, Intro) .
\n;
}
$full .= $block;
if( $enoughToc !$i $isMain !$this-mForceTocPosition ) {
--
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[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org changed: What|Removed |Added CC||lupin...@gmail.com --- Comment #60 from Mark A. Hershberger m...@everybody.org 2011-05-15 00:43:49 UTC --- *** Bug 4888 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex] ialex.w...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||efe...@ozemail.com.au --- Comment #59 from Alexandre Emsenhuber [IAlex] ialex.w...@gmail.com 2011-01-27 19:50:39 UTC --- *** Bug 26981 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il changed: What|Removed |Added CC||amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.i ||l --- Comment #56 from Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il 2010-03-28 13:23:51 UTC --- en.wikipedia has the gadget Add an [edit] link for the lead section of a page. It would be great to have it enabled by default in Vector, and in Monobook, too. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||me.prav...@gmail.com --- Comment #57 from Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.com 2010-03-28 21:15:05 IST --- Currently in Malayalam wikipedia using some templates on right side of Article title. (Some templates are important, such as [[:w:ml:Template:Prettyurl]], which provides a non percentage encoded redirect URL for a particular article URL, helps redistributing article URL).But may be lead section edit link become helpful to some people. So adding a check box option in preference's edit tab will be useful for them to enable it. I can see lot of blank space at tabs position of non-special pages (Vector skin). Adding there an additional tab for 0-th section editing may be not a big issue. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 --- Comment #58 from Chad H. innocentkil...@gmail.com 2010-03-28 15:50:16 UTC --- (In reply to comment #57) Currently in Malayalam wikipedia using some templates on right side of Article title. (Some templates are important, such as [[:w:ml:Template:Prettyurl]], which provides a non percentage encoded redirect URL for a particular article URL, helps redistributing article URL).But may be lead section edit link become helpful to some people. So adding a check box option in preference's edit tab will be useful for them to enable it. I can see lot of blank space at tabs position of non-special pages (Vector skin). Adding there an additional tab for 0-th section editing may be not a big issue. It's not a big issue. It's very very trivial to add a section link for the 0th section. The issue has been on where to put it. We've been discussing it for almost 6 years now. It's absurd. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Mike.lifeguard mike.lifegu...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||mike.lifegu...@gmail.com Keywords|accessibility | --- Comment #53 from Mike.lifeguard mike.lifegu...@gmail.com 2009-08-07 21:01:59 UTC --- This doesn't seem to have anything to do with accessibility - removed the keyword. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 --- Comment #55 from jida...@jidanni.org 2009-08-07 21:28:46 UTC --- (In reply to comment #53) This doesn't seem to have anything to do with accessibility - removed the keyword. Perhaps need a 'usability' keyword. E.g., perfect for bug 20116, that baffled an oldster. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 --- Comment #52 from Shinjiman shinji...@gmail.com 2009-08-02 14:36:26 UTC --- I am not sure this way can work or not: Introduce a new global variable like $enableEdit0SecLink = false; This can be set by site admin whether to make that enabled or disabled by default on that site. Also, set a check box toogle on user preferences and let the users to display the link or to suppress it. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Al Maghi alfred.ma...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||alfred.ma...@gmail.com Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED Resolution||FIXED --- Comment #46 from Al Maghi alfred.ma...@gmail.com 2009-07-12 17:11:04 UTC --- This feature is already there: - With interface messages in core: you can use the action=editeditsection=0 in MediaWiki interface messages to add an extra link when editing the entire article (look at [[MediaWiki:editnotice]] messages); - With JavaScript: you can use the edittop javaScript for user gadget or for importing in common.js ; http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-edittop.js http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Gadgets/Scripts -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 jida...@jidanni.org changed: What|Removed |Added URL||http://transgender- ||taiwan.org/index.php?title=� ||��薦uselang=en Keywords||accessibility Version|1.12-svn|1.16-svn --- Comment #47 from jida...@jidanni.org 2009-07-12 17:27:22 UTC --- I just ran update.php, and in the above URL that I just put in the top of this bug, there are only edit links for the remaining sections. That is all I can figure out. Also I put an accessibility keyword in, as you should provide a solution for text browsers too. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|FIXED | --- Comment #48 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2009-07-12 17:33:57 UTC --- (In reply to comment #46) This feature is already there: - With interface messages in core: you can use the action=editeditsection=0 in MediaWiki interface messages to add an extra link when editing the entire article (look at [[MediaWiki:editnotice]] messages); - With JavaScript: you can use the edittop javaScript for user gadget or for importing in common.js ; http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-edittop.js http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Gadgets/Scripts That is not a fix. That is a way for users to work around the problem. The request is to fix it, by default, in the core software. Perhaps someone should ask the people working on Vector about this. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 156] Add section edit link for 0th section
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Al Maghi alfred.ma...@gmail.com changed:
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Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
Resolution||WONTFIX
--- Comment #49 from Al Maghi alfred.ma...@gmail.com 2009-07-12 17:53:50 UTC
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(In reply to comment #48)
That is not a fix. That is a way for users to work around the problem. The
request is to fix it, by default, in the core software.
As there is a core solution with URL link:
title={{FULLPAGENAME}}action=editeditsection=0 the bug matters with where to
add an extra edit-top link. As there is non a consensual need and place in
interface for this, it seems WONTFIX.
Those comments lead to WONTFIX status:
(In reply to comment #38)
There is no need for any preference. It simply needs to be ensured that the
link doesn't disturb page layout.
With the current float-right section-edit links this is problematic as that
area is frequently home to floating info boxes or images.
If section-edit links are moved to the left margin (before header text) or
inline after the header text, then where should the section-0 edit link go?
(In reply to comment #12)
[[Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts/Add edit section 0]] and
[[Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts/Edit Top]] are implementations of
this. I would suggest marking the bug WONTFIX, as implementation details are a
bit iffy, and it's probably better to leave it to the users to choose which
they
prefer.
(In reply to comment #34)
There will likely a large ammount of opposition if this is introduced into
core
code by defualt, one solution would be to add it as a configuration variable
or
preference - however they are already very overused. Another problem is the
location of such a link, currently there are several skins and the link would
have to find a different place in each, one solution would to just put it in
the top right corner (or left in rtl mode) of the artcile - however if an
infobox were being used that would look ugly.
Therefore I suggest that this be closed as WONTFIX because it can easily be
added if someone wants to make their own skin, or via CSS\JS.
(In reply to comment #15)
Yarg, that was destined to send another bug to hell.
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https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156 Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|WONTFIX | --- Comment #50 from Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikib...@gmail.com 2009-07-12 17:57:13 UTC --- Please do not resolve bugs as WONTFIX unless you're a MediaWiki developer. Thank you. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
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--- Comment #51 from jida...@jidanni.org 2009-07-12 18:05:43 UTC ---
Al: It seems you are proposing that one use {{fullurl}} in combination
with title={{FULLPAGENAME}}action=editeditsection=0 on pages where
is desperate enough to do that just to get a way to edit section 0.
All I know is Junior's shirt looks ugly with the top button missing,
and that is a giant button you are proposing, when viewed from inside
the garment.
Anyway, I never looked under the hood... all I can tell you is from
the outside, yes, clothes look good with the top button open, but they
always still have that button, if one day the wind blows and you want
to close it.
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