[Bug 23497] show interlanguage links by default

2010-06-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23497

Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED
 Resolution||FIXED

--- Comment #12 from Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com 2010-06-18 12:37:21 
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We are now showing the language links by default, closing as FIXED.

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[Bug 23497] show interlanguage links by default

2010-06-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it changed:

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--- Comment #11 from Nemo_bis federicol...@tiscali.it 2010-06-11 17:48:09 
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(In reply to comment #7)
 Reverted by Trevor in r67299: 

This was essentially reverted by r67559.
See [[mailarchive:foundation-l/2010-June/059011.html]] for the background
conclusions and bug 23744 comment 1 for the implementation.

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[Bug 23497] show interlanguage links by default

2010-06-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org 2010-06-04 16:51:22 
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http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Opinion:_Language_Links

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[Bug 23497] show interlanguage links by default

2010-06-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org 2010-06-04 
16:52:51 UTC ---
Moved that to: http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Opinion_Language_Links

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[Bug 23497] show interlanguage links by default

2010-06-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23497

Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org changed:

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--- Comment #8 from Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org 2010-06-03 23:38:08 UTC 
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(In reply to comment #7)
 Reverted by Trevor in r67299: This goes against an intentional design
 decision. To discuss that decision further and submit proposals to change this
 design please contact Howie Fung hf...@wikimedia.org or visit
 http://usability.wikimedia.org;

Where on the usability wiki should this be discussed? There appears to be no
active discussion on that wiki? Per bug:23512 and other comments elsewhere, the
collapsible menus are not accessible to users of certain browsers. At the very
least expanding them by default should be set until that bug is fixed.

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[Bug 23497] show interlanguage links by default

2010-05-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Mark node...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Mark node...@gmail.com 2010-05-21 06:13:59 UTC ---
Please don't hide interwikis by default. Should be an option for logged-in
users. It will hurt small Wikis...

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[Bug 23497] show interlanguage links by default

2010-05-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from Jon Harald Søby jhs...@gmail.com 2010-05-21 09:17:21 UTC 
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(In reply to comment #2)
 Please don't hide interwikis by default. Should be an option for logged-in
 users. It will hurt small Wikis...

Oh, not only small wikis will be hurt - ALL languages will be hurt, even big
languages like French and German. Having just a tiny button with Languages
instead of the entire thing makes all languages invisible, and fewer people
will notice that there are articles in other languages at all, let alone
articles in their own language. (Hell, even I thought some articles were only
in English when the language menu was collapsed.)

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[Bug 23497] show interlanguage links by default

2010-05-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Effeietsanders effeietsand...@wikipedia.be changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Effeietsanders effeietsand...@wikipedia.be 2010-05-21 
09:29:55 UTC ---
Would a solution perhaps be to keep them visible by default, but then provide
just like with the sitenotice a hide button which from then on hides other
languages by default (but then ideally also for non-logged in users)?

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[Bug 23497] show interlanguage links by default

2010-05-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il 2010-05-21 
09:40:25 UTC ---
This bug is about the default. The default should be to show all languages. At
[[Wikipedia:User_experience_feedback]] many people expressed their
dissatisfaction with their hiding.

As i said in the first description, it's good to let people hide all the links
if they don't want to see them. It also makes sense to let people show
languages in the order they want or to show a short number of languages that
are useful to them. There's a gadget in the Hebrew Wikipedia that allows this:

http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-InterwikiOrder.js

Feel free to reuse it.

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[Bug 23497] show interlanguage links by default

2010-05-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23497

Casey Brown cbrown1...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Casey Brown cbrown1...@gmail.com 2010-05-20 22:50:32 UTC 
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(In reply to comment #0)
 shown, a lot of people may never know that they exist at all.

This is actually very true.  Lots of people have commented saying I can't
believe you got rid of the interlanguage links!  That was my favorite part!,
truly believing that we totally got rid of interwikis.

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[Bug 23497] show interlanguage links by default

2010-05-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23497

Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com changed:

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  Component|Site requests   |UsabilityInitiative
Version|unspecified |any
 AssignedTo|wikibug...@lists.wikimedia. |tpars...@wikimedia.org
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Product|Wikimedia   |MediaWiki extensions

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