https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36064
Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed:
What|Removed |Added
Priority|Low |Normal
Summary|Enable flags for needinfo |Find a way to mark a report
||as needinfo (stalled
||until specific input is
||provided)
--- Comment #10 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
Pasting the log from the Bugzilla/Bug management IRC Office hour in
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andre__ so, whoever is in the mood for discussing: Another interesting idea
might be to introduce a NEEDINFO bug status, when there is information missing
from the reporter. This is https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36064
andre__ and I was told that at least the Language Engineering team would like
to have a way to tag bug reports as needs more information or stalled.
andre__ some Bugzilla have such a status (like GNOME and KDE), other
Bugzillas (Mozilla) use a so-called flag (a dropdown) for that.
andre__ ...but I guess I'll need to ask some more teams to decide whether to
do that or not, vs. making things more complicated by adding yet another
status. (Though adding it as a status would be very easy, technically)
sumanah My vote: do what makes sense to you. You own this. :)
MatmaRex andre__: wouldn't UNCONFIRMED fit?
andre__ MatmaRex, hmm, that's an interesting idea - does unconfirmed mean
that it's not clear whether the issue exists and whether it's a real bug in
our code / setup, or can it also mean nobody else has seen this problem yet
or not enough info yet or anymore to confirm it?
andre__ lately I prefer the latter interpretation, but I'm probably a
minority.
MatmaRex andre__: i think it's a bit of both
MatmaRex but i rarely see it used
andre__ MatmaRex, also, Please retest this after these changes would mean
to reset it to UNCONFIRMED?
andre__ it's an interesting idea.
MatmaRex i'd say it means that no one apart from the reporter confirmed it -
ie, non-reproducible
MatmaRex (or not reproduced yet)
MatmaRex it might also mean that no one (yet) agreed with the reports whether
the subject of the report is actually an issue
lizzard MatmaRex: my question is usually, well, i can reproduce it , but am
still not sure if it is our bug, or someone else's bug
MatmaRex lizzard: i'd say that's not UNCONFIRMED, just a bug, possibly one
that should get an 'upstream' keyword once it's figured out on our side
* MatmaRex 's not a bugmeister, though.
andre__ MatmaRex, on the other hand, NEEDINFO means stalled or needs info
from somebody before anything else can be done. That doesn't feel like
UNCONFIRMED to me.
andre__ Still the question Can UNCONFIRMED be used for what NEEDINFO is in
some other bugtrackers? is something really good to think about
sumanah Right now, the moment a person shows up with a new bug, it's at
UNCONFIRMED. Unless we're going to switch that to something else, it's better
to have something else that means WE SPECIFICALLY NEED MORE INFO FROM YOU.
BLOCKED OTHERWISE.
sumanah YES WE LOOKED AT IT. PLEASE REVISE.
MatmaRex hm, good point.
andre__ (it's only UNCONFIRMED on enter_bug.cgi if you don't have editbugs
permissions, otherwise the dropdown defaults to NEW)
sankarshan_CPU usage of Unconfirmed is Bugs with the Unconfirmed keyword
have been entered into Bugzilla but not yet confirmed by Development that an
actual bug exists.
sumanah For searches, and for a skim down a list of bugs, we won't be able to
tell oh this would be NEW except the person's unprivileged
sankarshan_CPU https://bugzilla.redhat.com/describekeywords.cgi
sankarshan_CPU (as an example)
sumanah so that's a keyword, over there in RedHat land. :)
andre__ sankarshan_CPU, uh, RedHat has a keyword for that, instead of a
status? interesting.
sumanah https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/describekeywords.cgi includes testme
- This bug needs to be re-confirmed to check if it is still present in the
latest alpha version of MediaWiki.
sankarshan_CPU http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/BugStatusWorkFlow is
the one from Fedora land .. andre__
andre__ yeah, but testme is a more general keyword for old stuff that should
be retested but there's no indication that a developer couldn't pick it up and
fix it - it's not necessarily asking a specific person for more information
like NEEDINFO would be.
andre__ sankarshan_CPU, thanks
sumanah you're right andre__
sumanah ok, so it sounds like andre__ needs to do a little checking of other
Bugzilla installations, make a decision, implement it :)
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