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--- Comment #33 from Nemo ---
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--- Comment #32 from Gerrit Notification Bot ---
Change 108988 merged by jenkins-bot:
Restore enableWebfonts pref and remove uls-enable
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/108988
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--- Comment #31 from Andre Klapper ---
Gerard: Please take a high-level discussion of Wikimedia's mission to private
email. Technically offtopic here. Thanks.
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--- Comment #30 from Gerard Meijssen ---
Implementation costs are secondary when they stand in the way of our mission.
You acknowledge that people often do not have the power to manage the systems
they are using. You acknowledge that people nee
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--- Comment #29 from MZMcBride ---
(In reply to comment #28)
> I am sad because of your remarks. They clearly assume that people have the
> power to install the fonts on the systems they use. Not necessarily true.
Sure.
> They assume that ULS
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--- Comment #28 from Gerard Meijssen ---
(In reply to comment #27)
> (In reply to comment #13)
> > Why do we actually have to remove this option again? What's wrong with
> > simply
> > keeping it and making it default to enabled (therefore ena
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--- Comment #27 from MZMcBride ---
(In reply to comment #13)
> Why do we actually have to remove this option again? What's wrong with simply
> keeping it and making it default to enabled (therefore enabling ULS by
> default) while still giving
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--- Comment #26 from Eduard Braun ---
(In reply to comment #23)
> The backlog in bug 46306 should cover that request (before the report turned
> its meaning).
If this was a reply to my comment 22 I don't see how bug 46306 should be
helping? It
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--- Comment #25 from Amir E. Aharoni ---
(In reply to comment #24)
> Will there be a global switch to enable web fonts for a specific Wiki?
> (maybe with the possibility to toggle this on a personal level ?
Both possibilities are part of the p
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--- Comment #24 from Gerard Meijssen ---
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> (In reply to comment #20)
> > Does this mean that the global preference to toggle the default for webfonts
> > is
> > removed ?
>
> No, the current direction is to remove the
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--- Comment #23 from Andre Klapper ---
The backlog in bug 46306 should cover that request (before the report turned
its meaning).
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--- Comment #22 from Eduard Braun ---
There is still no comment on *why* we need to remove the preference to disable
all of ULS! Comment 13 was not answered yet. The solution proposed there would
still enable ULS by default (therefore the statu
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--- Comment #21 from Amir E. Aharoni ---
(In reply to comment #20)
> Does this mean that the global preference to toggle the default for webfonts
> is
> removed ?
No, the current direction is to remove the preference that enables or disables
a
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--- Comment #19 from Gerard Meijssen ---
Does this mean that the global preference to toggle the default for webfonts is
removed ?
If so why, where was this discussed and has it been considered what this does
for the utility of MediaWiki for m
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--- Comment #20 from Gerard Meijssen ---
Does this mean that the global preference to toggle the default for webfonts is
removed ?
If so why, where was this discussed and has it been considered what this does
for the utility of MediaWiki for m
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--- Comment #18 from Gerrit Notification Bot ---
Change 108988 had a related patch set uploaded by Ori.livneh:
Restore enableWebfonts pref and remove uls-enable
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/108988
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--- Comment #17 from Isarra ---
Ah, neat. Nevermind, then.
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--- Comment #15 from Isarra ---
Apparently Erik has a problem with what I said here (?), so I'd like to clarify
that this is according to how it currently appears to stand; there could be
several different potential resolutions depending on wha
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--- Comment #14 from Isarra ---
So I disagree with this bug. I think the option should be there.
I also disagree that having it enabled or disabled should be a global all or
nothing thing. Different projects have different use cases - one that
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--- Comment #13 from Eduard Braun ---
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> The option will go away again and is temporary (as disabling ULS is
> temporary).
> Also see bug 46306 comment 115.
Why do we actually have to remove this option again? What's w
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--- Comment #12 from Andre Klapper ---
The option will go away again and is temporary (as disabling ULS is temporary).
Also see bug 46306 comment 115.
Gerard: Please take high-level abstract "what WMF does" discussions somewhere
else ( https:/
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--- Comment #11 from Ori Livneh ---
(In reply to comment #10)
> The WMF is to share in the sum of all knowledge. When a majority prevents
> this
> sharing of knowledge to a minority, it is NOT about ugly coding, it is about
> lack of considerat
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--- Comment #10 from Gerard Meijssen ---
The WMF is to share in the sum of all knowledge. When a majority prevents this
sharing of knowledge to a minority, it is NOT about ugly coding, it is about
lack of consideration for the consequences to o
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--- Comment #9 from Eduard Braun ---
This whole discussion is silly. ULS is not removed so it's still available for
everybody. Nobody wants to take this feature away from others.
The only logic solution is to make the ULS setting to be enabled
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--- Comment #8 from praveenp ---
say 93 to 90 percentage. ;-)
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--- Comment #7 from praveenp ---
Gerard, you are still saying that people have to suffer ugly coding to
compensate those who need ULS, right?
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--- Comment #6 from Gerard Meijssen ---
When "some people" remove functionality for everyone, functionality that
enables people to read Wikipedia in the first place, I would qualify them as
egocentric.
When someone comes new to our projects we
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--- Comment #5 from p858snake ---
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> What percentage of the USA, UK or AU population does it take to insist on the
> fallacy that ULS is clutter and not needed ?
It may surprise you, but some people don't use the ULS sy
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--- Comment #4 from Ori Livneh ---
The preference was simply a means of disabling the extension by default for all
users but allowing users who depend on it to turn it back on. It was not a
product or design decision. It may or may not go away
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--- Comment #3 from Gerard Meijssen ---
What percentage of the USA, UK or AU population does it take to insist on the
fallacy that ULS is clutter and not needed ?
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--- Comment #2 from Eduard Braun ---
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> Adding a user preference contributes to (very visible) user interface clutter
> and should only be done as a last resort.
This statement feels a bit ironic given the fact that the
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