[Bug 68425] Tooltips for Insert - Special Character

2014-07-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68425

James Forrester jforres...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||68429

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[Bug 68425] Tooltips for Insert - Special Character

2014-07-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68425

Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Severity|normal  |enhancement

--- Comment #1 from Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org ---
(In reply to Daniel Naber from comment #0)
 There are at least two dash-like characters in the Special character
 dialog. They should have a tooltip describing them, otherwise it won't be
 obvious to most users which character is to be used in which situation.

Assuming you refer to − and — : Don't use and situations highly depend on
cultures (and languages) anyway? Wondering if it would be possible to generally
explain at all.  Any citation for won't be obvious to most users?

(In reply to Daniel Naber from comment #0)
 Actually, why not add a descriptive tooltip to all special characters?

I doubt there is a usecase for explaining every single character (and making
translators translate them). Which actual problem to solve?

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[Bug 68425] Tooltips for Insert - Special Character

2014-07-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68425

Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||rm...@wikimedia.org,
   ||tpars...@wikimedia.org
  Component|General |Editing Tools

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[Bug 68425] Tooltips for Insert - Special Character

2014-07-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68425

--- Comment #2 from Daniel Naber misc2...@danielnaber.de ---
(In reply to Andre Klapper from comment #1)

 Assuming you refer to − and — : Don't use and situations highly depend on
 cultures (and languages) anyway?

I guess so (and that's probably why de.wikipedia has a different dialog than
en.wikipedia), but still these characters have names that at least help explain
their meaning and make it possible to tell them apart.

 Any citation for won't be obvious to most users?

I've fixed about 2000 typos in de.wikipedia in the last few months and
typographical problems (although not limited to the dash characters) are very
common.

 I doubt there is a usecase for explaining every single character (and making
 translators translate them). Which actual problem to solve?

It increases confidence in what you're doing if you can see that you are
actually using the right character (instead of one that maybe just looks the
same - this could easily happen with then tens of thousands of unicode
characters available). For translation, either use the Unicode name without
translation, or an official translation (that might be available or not).

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