[Bug 11831] includeonce for embedded pages
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11831 P.Copp paul.copper...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||fastgoldf...@gmail.com --- Comment #16 from P.Copp paul.copper...@gmail.com 2011-07-14 20:56:42 UTC --- *** Bug 29889 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 11831] includeonce for embedded pages
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11831 Angel anag...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED Resolution||WONTFIX -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 11831] includeonce for embedded pages
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11831 Svip svi...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||svi...@gmail.com --- Comment #10 from Svip svi...@gmail.com 2010-03-24 11:23:24 UTC --- Question: Will includeonce be a includeonly like tag or will it be like regular? I can imagine the need for inclusion of something only once, but not whether it needs to be *only* included or whether it could be viewed while viewing the template. Perhaps a includeonlyandonce tag or some such. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 11831] includeonce for embedded pages
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--- Comment #11 from Conrad Irwin conrad.ir...@gmail.com 2010-03-24 14:12:11
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This proposal, as it stands is horribly confusing. Firstly includeonce is a
bad name, you still want this to be included multiple times (just not
re-included).
The semantics of includeonce are also confusing, are includeonlyonce or
onlyincludeonce also needed, what about includetwice etc. When an
includeonce is subst:'d, does it morph into a noinclude, what about if I
load the template with ?preload=, and what's poor
[[mw:Extension:LabelledSectionTransclusion]] supposed to do. In many ways I
prefer the solution hinted at by Platonides, creating {{#ifdepth: yX }} - where
y is , = or and X is 0,1,(2 etc.?). (i.e. includeonce = 2, noinclude
= =0, includeonly = 0) or something nicer.
My main worry is, however, that this will only work in a very limited set of
cases; whether to show the template or not (even in the given example of
deletion template on a template) depends not really on how many levels of
inclusion, but rather on do I want to see this template here. For example,
it's arguable that a nominated meta-template's deletion notice should propagate
up through the individual templates that use it - in the Dodge Viper case the
reporter implies that the NavBox should be propagated in some cases. I am
unable to think up a nicer solution, maybe creating the idea of inclusion
contexts, {{context1:Template}}, and then {{#ifcontext:1}} within it, and
context number defaulting to namespace, but... yuck.
Implementation of this falls firmly into the difficult category, it breaks
assumptions made by the parser, and whatever happens it's going to require
threading a lot of state around (though that is needed for bug 9105 too -
that's the {{PAGENAME}} part of the bug's introduction).
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[Bug 11831] includeonce for embedded pages
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--- Comment #12 from Angel anag...@gmail.com 2010-03-24 16:03:14 UTC ---
Well, if having a depth or context parameter is not something that is easily
implemented, then why not just something simple? Name it noreinclude if you
will and reincludeonly. Those, combined with #ifeq:{{PAGENAME}} should work
for most of the cases.
I think this should be easily implemented. Am I wrong?
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[Bug 11831] includeonce for embedded pages
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11831 --- Comment #13 from Conrad Irwin conrad.ir...@gmail.com 2010-03-24 16:03:54 UTC --- (In reply to comment #12) I think this should be easily implemented. Am I wrong? Yes. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 11831] includeonce for embedded pages
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11831 --- Comment #14 from Angel anag...@gmail.com 2010-03-24 16:09:48 UTC --- So, nothing can be done? How about some sort of transclusion or substitution complementary to the existing ones, that will ignore noinclude tags and the like. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 11831] includeonce for embedded pages
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11831 --- Comment #15 from Angel anag...@gmail.com 2010-03-24 16:11:09 UTC --- Or include tags that will ignore other such tags. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 11831] includeonce for embedded pages
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11831 --- Comment #3 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com 2010-03-07 21:29:13 UTC --- *** Bug 22758 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 11831] includeonce for embedded pages
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--- Comment #4 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com 2010-03-07 21:31:49 UTC
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includeonce wouldn't work for a {{PAGENAME}} parameter. You would want
something like setting the depth at which a template is transcluded. Or have a
variable expanded with the name of the page in which it is written (as opposed
to the page oon which it is shown).
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[Bug 11831] includeonce for embedded pages
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11831 --- Comment #5 from Angel anag...@gmail.com 2010-03-07 21:35:04 UTC --- Well yeah, an includeonce though, would be a much simpler thing to implement. Why hasn't anyone done this in 3 years? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 11831] includeonce for embedded pages
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11831 --- Comment #6 from Angel anag...@gmail.com 2010-03-07 21:38:34 UTC --- I'm adding the description from my report, as I think it's much clearer: There are many occasions where the usual noinclude, includeonly, onlyinclude tags are not enough. It is often the case that something needs to be transcluded or substituted once, but no more. This is the case with templates that are transcluded in other templates, but it is not wanted to be transcluded again in articles and such. I propose tags includeonce/includeonce that will wrap sections that must only transclude/subst once. Perhaps, they can be converted to noinclude, after the get transcluded/substituted. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 11831] includeonce for embedded pages
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11831 --- Comment #7 from Platonides platoni...@gmail.com 2010-03-07 21:55:40 UTC --- Angel, you don't specify when you want to transclude just one level. What's the case for wanting to do that? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 11831] includeonce for embedded pages
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11831 --- Comment #8 from Angel anag...@gmail.com 2010-03-07 22:17:33 UTC --- For instance, take a look at Template:Tfd at wikipedia. I'm not sure what's your relation to WP, so I'll elaborate. The template means Template for discussion and is put to other templates when they are nominated for deletion or whatever. On the templates I'd like Tfd to appear as a box, containing info about the nomination. On the articles it should appear as a smaller notification. All that works so far. It checks for the namespace. If it's template the box shows, if its mainspace, the notifications do. The problem is, when there is documentation in a template. The box then gets transcluded in every single example in them. Check for example Template:Rating-big. I guess there are some workarounds for this, but it would make things a lot much easier to do this with such a tag. I think it would be very useful to anyone who's working on templates. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
[Bug 11831] includeonce for embedded pages
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11831 --- Comment #9 from Angel anag...@gmail.com 2010-03-07 22:44:39 UTC --- And does that name denote Greek origin or something? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. You are on the CC list for the bug. ___ Wikibugs-l mailing list Wikibugs-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibugs-l
