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--- Comment #40 from Bawolff (Brian Wolff) ---
So to flesh out comment 38, here's what I would suggest:
*In Title::moveToInternal, if this->getNamespace() !== $nt->getNamespace(),
then do $logEntry->setRelations( array( 'new_page_helper' => sp
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--- Comment #39 from Bawolff (Brian Wolff) ---
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> Rohan's patch just gave me a (hacky) idea.
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> *Add an index on (rc_source, rc_log_type, rc_timestamp)
> *Do the normal newpages query, takin
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--- Comment #38 from Bawolff (Brian Wolff) ---
Rohan's patch just gave me a (hacky) idea.
*Add an index on (rc_source, rc_log_type, rc_timestamp)
*Do the normal newpages query, taking note of the first and last timestamp
returned.
*Do another
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Change 148322 had a related patch set uploaded by Rohan013:
Show Page moves on Special:Newpages
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--- Comment #35 from Matthew Flaschen ---
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> What about creating a new special page, Special:NewArticles (perhaps a better
> name could be chosen)?
>
> It could list new pages in ns0, regardless of they are created or
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--- Comment #34 from Paolo Benvenuto ---
What about creating a new special page, Special:NewArticles (perhaps a better
name could be chosen)?
It could list new pages in ns0, regardless of they are created or moved from
another ns.
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--- Comment #33 from Nemo ---
(To be clear, simple but not trivial to approve, and workaround but only for
some part.)
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--- Comment #32 from Nemo ---
Until someone gets to implement one of the options in comment 16, it's worth
noting that one simple workaround for WMF would be to raise $wgRCMaxAge
considerably. That's OT here, so if someone wants to discuss it p
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--- Comment #31 from Matthew Flaschen ---
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> I think I haven't expressed well my thoght in comment 27.
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> When I spoke of Special:NewArticle, different from Special:NewPages, I meant
> a special page which tracked all
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--- Comment #30 from Paolo Benvenuto ---
I think I haven't expressed well my thoght in comment 27.
When I spoke of Special:NewArticle, different from Special:NewPages, I meant a
special page which tracked all new ns0 pages, regardless of wheth
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--- Comment #29 from Nemo ---
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> Maybe nobody has thoght on that, but I'm proposing something "different":
It's option 2 in comment 16. Option 2 seems the easiest, but it's IMHO clear
that not forcing new page patrolle
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--- Comment #28 from p858snake ---
Special:MovedPages would probably be better, from the aspect that not everyone
uses the "Article" terminology when referring to pages.
Then just have a couple of filters on the page for "Moved from NS X" and
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--- Comment #27 from Paolo Benvenuto ---
Maybe nobody has thoght on that, but I'm proposing something "different":
Why can't we leave Special:NewPages as it is, and implement a
Special:NewArticles page which only tracks new entries in ns0, eit
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--- Comment #26 from p858snake ---
I still feel the same about this as I did back in Comment 4, NewPages as it's
name suggest should be for NEW pages, moves aren't new pages. We should think
about another log page(s) to display move actions spe
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--- Comment #23 from Steven Walling ---
Poke. Any movement on this?
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--- Comment #22 from Steven Walling ---
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> > The above solution is only good for enwiki though. If it's inordinately
> > difficult to add recent moves to Special:NewPages, then I think Option 2,
> > and
> > creation of
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--- Comment #21 from Bawolff (Brian Wolff) ---
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> Oliver says NewPagesFeed already lists page moves. If this is the case, then
> we
> should be evangelizing use of that tool as a short term solution.
Verified that
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--- Comment #19 from Oliver Keyes ---
Ah, just saw Nemo's comment; ignore me.
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--- Comment #17 from Derrick Coetzee ---
I've checked in the updates to recentmoves in case anyone is interested in
basing a patch on it. It's worth noting that it is not a single query as
written right now - it does some filtering of the query
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--- Comment #16 from Bawolff (Brian Wolff) ---
Ugh, the way recentchanges is stored isn't the most ammenable to fixing this
bug. (Its not the most accesible to filter by what the target namespace of the
move is).
Options:
1. Totally redo the r
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--- Comment #15 from Derrick Coetzee ---
Just a heads up, at least for enwiki,
http://toolserver.org/~dcoetzee/recentmoves/ is operational again (it was
broken by MW1.19 changes to log_params field and I didn't notice until now).
However I stil
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--- Comment #14 from Kevin Gorman ---
I'm not sure if the same issue applies to newpagesfeed, but I would agree with
Nemo that getting newpages fixed would be a higher priority. If the same issue
does apply with newpagesfeed, it should be fixe
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--- Comment #12 from Bawolff (Brian Wolff) ---
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> This bug may be being actively misused on the English Wikipedia. We need to
> get
> this fixed.
>
> CCing Fabrice Florin, the product manager for page curation, to get
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--- Comment #9 from Derrick Coetzee 2012-01-14 14:11:22
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I agree that this should be fixed in Mediawiki eventually. But I know that will
take time, so the tool is a temporary stopgap measure.
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--- Comment #8 from Paolo Benvenuto 2012-01-14 13:07:42
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ok, but it "solves" the problem for wikipedia, not for all other mediawiki
installation...
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--- Comment #7 from Derrick Coetzee 2012-01-14 10:16:07
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For now, I've implemented a tool on Toolserver called "Recent moves" to address
this problem:
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I hope I can encourage people to start
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--- Comment #5 from Paolo Benvenuto 2012-01-13 11:58:18
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+1 Derrick Coetzee!
Actually in wikipedia and most of other mediawiki project, ns0 is higher rank
than other ns, it's not the same thing to create a page in some namespace and
to
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