[Bug 49057] MediaWiki-Vagrant should be easy to distribute and set up at events (tracking)

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[Bug 49057] MediaWiki-Vagrant should be easy to distribute and set up at events (tracking)

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[Bug 49057] MediaWiki-Vagrant should be easy to distribute and set up at events (tracking)

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[Bug 49057] MediaWiki-Vagrant should be easy to distribute and set up at events (tracking)

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--- Comment #14 from Matthew Flaschen  ---
I did the apt-cache route (bug 64928), though some improvements are probably
possible (i.e. including the packages a fresh box needs on first 'provision',
and maybe ones needed by very common extensions, rather than the ones that just
happen to currently be in the apt-cache directory).

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[Bug 49057] MediaWiki-Vagrant should be easy to distribute and set up at events (tracking)

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--- Comment #13 from Bryan Davis  ---
USB drives were used to great success at the MediaWiki-Vagrant bootcamp session
given at the Zürich hackathon. One nice idea for the future would be to add a
pre-populated apt-cache and/or a custom base image that has been taken from a
clean base VM after the initial puppet run.

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[Bug 49057] MediaWiki-Vagrant should be easy to distribute and set up at events (tracking)

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Bug 49057 depends on bug 61060, which changed state.

Bug 61060 Summary: Script to assemble ISO of MediaWiki-Vagrant installers and 
dependencies
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61060

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|PATCH_TO_REVIEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |FIXED

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--- Comment #12 from Matthew Flaschen  ---
Quim, the script for bug 61060 is merged.  Ori has USB drives.  He is in the
process of generating an ISO file containing all the resources mentioned in
that bug.  He will then ask WMF IT to burn/copy the image onto USB drives, and
bring the USB drives to Zürich.

This tracking bug will remain for now, since there is broader scope possible
(e.g. making one-click installers that install all dependencies, do the clones
from the bundles, etc.).

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--- Comment #11 from Bryan Davis  ---
(In reply to Andrew Otto from comment #10)
> https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/130572/

To expand on Andrew's comment, for the Zürich Hackathon we will be making USB
thumbdrives with key install files for setting up MediaWiki-Vagrant. Matt's
patch should make repeating this process in the future easier.

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--- Comment #10 from Andrew Otto  ---
https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/130572/

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--- Comment #9 from Quim Gil  ---
The Hackathon is next week. Do we have a plan?

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--- Comment #8 from Matthew Flaschen  ---
(In reply to Nemo from comment #7)
> Hm, hackathon is approaching quickly, is this considered important for its
> success or just a nice to have?

Yes, it's important, and I will definitely be doing bug 61060 before the Zürich
Hackathon.

> Based on my latest personal experience with MWV
> (), I wonder if network
> and file fetch is really the bottleneck or once we solve it we'll find worse
> problems, like the 2 hours required for the initial puppet run in the first
> "vagrant up".

Yes, most of the time is used in downloading.  For instance, generally most of
the Puppet time is used for downloading the entire MediaWiki core git
repository (with all history).  That is one of the files I will be bundling
with bug 61060.

> Perhaps it's easier to use remote virtual servers instead? They have better
> network, usually better CPU, and most importantly can even be set up in
> advance. Then the hackers only have to learn keys and ssh (which they have
> anyway) and they can still use their local text editors and whatever via
> their [[KIOslaves]] or equivalent if that's a problem.

This is worth investigating/trying, but I won't be looking at it before Zürich.

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--- Comment #7 from Nemo  ---
Hm, hackathon is approaching quickly, is this considered important for its
success or just a nice to have?

Based on my latest personal experience with MWV
(), I wonder if network
and file fetch is really the bottleneck or once we solve it we'll find worse
problems, like the 2 hours required for the initial puppet run in the first
"vagrant up".

Perhaps it's easier to use remote virtual servers instead? They have better
network, usually better CPU, and most importantly can even be set up in
advance. Then the hackers only have to learn keys and ssh (which they have
anyway) and they can still use their local text editors and whatever via their
[[KIOslaves]] or equivalent if that's a problem. Labs already allows making
instances with vagrant roles, though I've not tried before, and another option
is AWS which also has a free trial (very hard to run into its limits with a
test wiki). Anyone liking the latter option, please add bug 58896 to blockers
of this bug.

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--- Comment #6 from Matthew Flaschen  ---
Alright, I've made and assigned to myself bug 61060 for that in general
(linking to the one specific to DMGs).

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--- Comment #5 from Brion Vibber  ---
A packaged directory (a la bug 60982) that we can pre-copy onto a bunch of USB
sticks sounds ideal to me. Even local wifi can end up borking too easily in a
hackathon setting to rely on LAN distribution.

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Summary|MediaWiki-Vagrant should be |MediaWiki-Vagrant should be
   |easy to distribute and set  |easy to distribute and set
   |up at events|up at events (tracking)

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