Re: [Wikidata] Italian Wikipedia imports gone haywire ?

On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Jan Ainali wrote: > 2015-09-27 23:03 GMT+02:00 Thad Guidry : > >> I have added my viewpoint to the P190 Discussion page. >> > > Great, thanks! > > >> >> Are you seriously saying that a Talk Page (where many are 2 - 10 pages >> scrollable) is the culmination of a d

Re: [Wikidata] Italian Wikipedia imports gone haywire ?

2015-09-27 23:03 GMT+02:00 Thad Guidry : > I have added my viewpoint to the P190 Discussion page. > Great, thanks! > > Are you seriously saying that a Talk Page (where many are 2 - 10 pages > scrollable) is the culmination of a definition of a property in Wikidata ? > In theory, only the top b

Re: [Wikidata] Italian Wikipedia imports gone haywire ?

But also Wikidata brings lots of mistakes/issues up. Vito 2015-09-27 23:12 GMT+02:00 Gerard Meijssen : > Hoi, > In them old days, this would be called a typical case of gigo or garbage > in garbage out. It is hardly the only instance where what we define in > Wikidata is not what we find in one

Re: [Wikidata] Italian Wikipedia imports gone haywire ?

Hoi, In them old days, this would be called a typical case of gigo or garbage in garbage out. It is hardly the only instance where what we define in Wikidata is not what we find in one of our sources. It is to be expected, it is not something to get upset about. At this time I am working on a div

Re: [Wikidata] Italian Wikipedia imports gone haywire ?

Wikipedia is build upon a bet: better ideas prevail anyway, regardless of who is expressing them ;) Vito 2015-09-27 23:03 GMT+02:00 Thad Guidry : > I have added my viewpoint to the P190 Discussion page. > > Are you seriously saying that a Talk Page (where many are 2 - 10 pages > scrollable) is t

Re: [Wikidata] Italian Wikipedia imports gone haywire ?

I have added my viewpoint to the P190 Discussion page. Are you seriously saying that a Talk Page (where many are 2 - 10 pages scrollable) is the culmination of a definition of a property in Wikidata ? You expect folks to read 10 pages of Talk to fully understand the intent and how to use a Proper

Re: [Wikidata] Italian Wikipedia imports gone haywire ?

2015-09-27 22:11 GMT+02:00 Thad Guidry : > ​​ > I have improved the Sister City property with a MUCH better description to > save others further grief. > You have improved the English description on the property. However, without updating the documentation page (which is the talk page) I guess mo

Re: [Wikidata] Italian Wikipedia imports gone haywire ?

​​ I have improved the Sister City property with a MUCH better description to save others further grief. Freebase had the same problems. Sometimes we were not descriptive enough on our Types and Properties and it caused confusion and bad data. Luckily, Experts and Staff and Volunteers would revie

Re: [Wikidata] Italian Wikipedia imports gone haywire ?

Yup, just as I feared...its almost a useless property as it stands now. No clear definition. Confusion is rampant among everyone. And where I think things could be vastly improved...is here Wikipedia has some great pages that typically describe the Property. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twi

Re: [Wikidata] Italian Wikipedia imports gone haywire ?

Thad Guidry, 27/09/2015 18:51: OK, it seems that Wikipedia does have a few nice features. :) I was able to quickly search History Congratulations for using action=history! Those interested in learnign more features of a wiki can check https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Principles > then you wou

Re: [Wikidata] Italian Wikipedia imports gone haywire ?

Both Sides ? Wikidata has a true graph representation like FB ? didn't know that. Can you show me the other side your referring too ? Thad +ThadGuidry On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Sjoerd de Bruin wrote: > It seems that the bot only wanted to sync sta

Re: [Wikidata] Italian Wikipedia imports gone haywire ?

It seems that the bot only wanted to sync statements, so the claim is on both items instead of one. You've only removed the statements at one side, so another bot could do the same again and add the statements back. Sjoerddebruin > Op 27 sep. 2015, om 21:02 heeft Thad Guidry het > volgende ge

Re: [Wikidata] Italian Wikipedia imports gone haywire ?

I didn't revert a bot. I removed a few erroneous statements that a bot made incorrectly. Thad +ThadGuidry On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Vi to wrote: > Actually you didn't talk about it, but still you can ask him for > explanations. Generally reverting a

Re: [Wikidata] Italian Wikipedia imports gone haywire ?

Actually you didn't talk about it, but still you can ask him for explanations. Generally reverting a bot which is working fine (since the mistake, if any, is onwiki) is useless. Vito 2015-09-27 20:11 GMT+02:00 Thad Guidry : > Great. > > ValterVB doesn't think I am right in removing them and has

Re: [Wikidata] Italian Wikipedia imports gone haywire ?

Great. ValterVB doesn't think I am right in removing them and has reverted them. I think I now remember why I left Wikipedia... too many chiefs who think they know better, rather than talking through things as a community. Thad +ThadGuidry On Sun, Sep 27,

Re: [Wikidata] Italian Wikipedia imports gone haywire ?

sorry, that should have been ... does NOT even help make them closer to any sister city. Thad +ThadGuidry On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Thad Guidry wrote: > ​I live there sometimes. :) > > Partner City (an alias of that Sister City description) does even

Re: [Wikidata] Italian Wikipedia imports gone haywire ?

​I live there sometimes. :) Partner City (an alias of that Sister City description) does even help make them closer to any sister city. If anyone disagrees with me, then you would have to fully describe what the property Sister City really means...because there is little to go on other than the i

Re: [Wikidata] Italian Wikipedia imports gone haywire ?

I'll try to give it a look in the next hours. L. Il 27/set/2015 18:57, "Amir Ladsgroup" ha scritto: > Italian Wikipedia says it's correct: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hefei > > > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 8:21 PM Thad Guidry wrote: > >> OK, it seems that Wikipedia does have a few nice feature

Re: [Wikidata] Italian Wikipedia imports gone haywire ?

>From a technical point of view there's nothing wrong with those statemets. Original infos were added by https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/ILoveKorea which doesn't seem to be a vandal. How did you find they are wrong? Vito 2015-09-27 18:57 GMT+02:00 Amir Ladsgroup : > Italian

Re: [Wikidata] Italian Wikipedia imports gone haywire ?

Italian Wikipedia says it's correct: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hefei On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 8:21 PM Thad Guidry wrote: > OK, it seems that Wikipedia does have a few nice features. :) > > I was able to quickly search History on the entity and find that Dexbot > had imported the erroneous s

Re: [Wikidata] Italian Wikipedia imports gone haywire ?

OK, it seems that Wikipedia does have a few nice features. :) I was able to quickly search History on the entity and find that Dexbot had imported the erroneous statements https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Dexbot <-- pretty cool options there, Good Job whomever ! and let the User (owner of the

[Wikidata] Italian Wikipedia imports gone haywire ?

I had to clean up this entity that had Sister City property filled in with lots of erroneous statements for it that I removed. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q185684 How can I figure out where the import went wrong, how it happened, and how to ensure it doesn't happen again ? How does one look at