Re: [Wikidata] Orphaned items

2015-05-31 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! As a practical suggestion for helping: http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/random_item_without_instance.php I would also suggest http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/important_blank_items.php which lists most linked items from wikis that have no connection to other items whatsoever.

Re: [Wikidata] Orphaned items

2015-05-31 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! If an item has no statements, no sitelinks, and isn't used anywhere, how do you tell what it even *is*? The label only? Is that sufficient and/or useful? What would be lost by deleting it? Maybe, if it has labels in many languages, with Unless its purpose if obvious (i.e.

Re: [Wikidata] Orphaned items

2015-05-31 Thread Andre Engels
And when you look at the discussion, you see that the message that you are referring to said: If you have an item that says someone whon a nobel prize, but not when or which, and also does *noit* have a label, that items is quite useless; it'S impossible to tell which person it is even

Re: [Wikidata] Orphaned items

2015-05-31 Thread Andre Engels
And what if Q9 does not have a label? How am I going from the information Q9 won the Nobel Prize in Literature to Q9 is/is not Patrick Modiano? André On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 6:29 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, Not enough data. Q9 may have a label that

Re: [Wikidata] Orphaned items

2015-05-31 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On 2015-05-30 20:42, Stas Malyshev wrote: Hi! The problems are often items which never had any links. Many of them are spam, but some of them can be used for structural needs and can be kept. If they are structural (like wikidata-only classes, etc.) shouldn't they have some incoming

Re: [Wikidata] Orphaned items

2015-05-31 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Given that 19,21% of all items have no statements whatsoever, it is a bit premature to come with such notions. Let us first fix this and then consider what we do not need. Thanks, GerardM https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/stats.php?reverse On 31 May 2015 at 16:12, Romaine Wiki

Re: [Wikidata] Orphaned items

2015-05-30 Thread Jane Darnell
Yaroslav thanks for posting - I had no idea. Thanks for your work on this too On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: On 2015-05-29 17:42, Markus Krötzsch wrote: Hi Jane, hi Romaine, I think we agree that valuable information should be kept if at all

Re: [Wikidata] Orphaned items

2015-05-29 Thread Magnus Manske
Not quite sure... On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:33 PM Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 29 May 2015 at 12:39, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: (in this case, it appears to be the castle of Żagań, once located in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%BBaga%C5%84 )

Re: [Wikidata] Orphaned items

2015-05-29 Thread Romaine Wiki
Hi Markus, Indeed yes, that is also an issue. It can happen with new articles and with older articles. Some articles get deleted as they are a duplicate of another article, or worse written (to bad to keep), or not an encyclopaedic subject to have in an encyclopaedia. Every day, on nl-wiki we

Re: [Wikidata] Orphaned items

2015-05-29 Thread Jane Darnell
I think this is a problem with the current workflow for creating articles, which starts with Wikipedia, then finishes with Wikidata, though it should probably be the other way around. This problem will eventually solve itself, given enough time, although I believe we still have lots of poorly