Re: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features

2016-02-05 Thread Schubotz, Moritz
Msn: mor...@schubotz.de -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Markus Krötzsch [mailto:mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2016 18:47 An: Schubotz, Moritz; Discussion list for the Wikidata project. Betreff: Re: AW: AW: AW: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features

Re: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features

2016-02-05 Thread Markus Kroetzsch
On 04.02.2016 18:59, Daniel Kinzler wrote: Am 04.02.2016 um 08:03 schrieb Markus Krötzsch: Data model updates are costly. Don't make them on a week's notice, without prior discussion, and without having any documentation ready to give to data users. It would also be good to announce breaking

Re: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features

2016-02-04 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 04.02.2016 um 08:03 schrieb Markus Krötzsch: > Data model updates are costly. Don't make them on a week's notice, without > prior > discussion, and without having any documentation ready to give to data users. > It > would also be good to announce breaking technical changes more prominently

Re: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features

2016-02-04 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 03.02.2016 12:44, John Erling Blad wrote: It is a bit strange to defines a data type in terms of a library of functions in another language. Or is just me that thinks this is a bit odd? What about MathML? The arxiv report that Moritz posted (after you had already asked your question) says

Re: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features

2016-02-04 Thread Markus Krötzsch
esendet: Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2016 08:20 An: Schubotz, Moritz; Discussion list for the Wikidata project. Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features Hi Moritz, On 03.02.2016 15:25, Schubotz, Moritz wrote: Hi Markus, I think we agree on the goals cf. http://arxiv.org/abs/1404.6179 By the way

Re: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features

2016-02-03 Thread John Erling Blad
It is a bit strange to defines a data type in terms of a library of functions in another language. Or is just me that thinks this is a bit odd? What about MathML? On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Markus Krötzsch < mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote: > For a consumer, the main practical

Re: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features

2016-02-03 Thread Markus Krötzsch
ta project.; Lydia Pintscher Cc: Schubotz, Moritz Betreff: Re: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features For a consumer, the main practical questions would be: (1) What subset of LaTeX exactly do you need to support to display the math expressions in Wikidata? (2) As a follow up: does MathJAX work

Re: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features

2016-02-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
..@tu-berlin.de > Skype: Schubi87 > ICQ: 200302764 > Msn: mor...@schubotz.de > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Markus Krötzsch [mailto:mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org] > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 3. Februar 2016 12:06 > An: Discussion list for the Wikidata project.; Lydia

Re: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features

2016-02-03 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 03.02.2016 um 14:01 schrieb Gerard Meijssen: > Hoi, > What does it do then? I understand that it is a dialect and the only use I > understand is English WIkipedia. Perhaps reading the mails in this thread would help with understanding what this does. Especially the first one. -- Daniel

Re: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features

2016-02-03 Thread Schubotz, Moritz
...@schubotz.de -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Markus Krötzsch [mailto:mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 3. Februar 2016 12:06 An: Discussion list for the Wikidata project.; Lydia Pintscher Cc: Schubotz, Moritz Betreff: Re: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features

Re: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features

2016-02-03 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 03.02.2016 um 14:31 schrieb Markus Krötzsch: > Hi Moritz, > > I must say that this is not very reassuring. So basically what we have in this > datatype now is a "LaTeX-like" markup language that is only supported by one > implementation that was created for MediaWiki, and partially by a LaTeX

Re: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features

2016-02-03 Thread Schubotz, Moritz
Hi Markus, I think we agree on the goals cf. http://arxiv.org/abs/1404.6179 By the way the texvc dialect is now 13 years old at least. For now it's required to be 100% compatible to the texvc dialect in order to use wikidata in Mediawiki instances. However, for the future there are also plans to

Re: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features

2016-02-03 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 03.02.2016 14:38, Daniel Kinzler wrote: Am 03.02.2016 um 14:31 schrieb Markus Krötzsch: Hi Moritz, I must say that this is not very reassuring. So basically what we have in this datatype now is a "LaTeX-like" markup language that is only supported by one implementation that was created for

Re: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features

2016-02-03 Thread Markus Krötzsch
Hi Moritz, On 03.02.2016 15:25, Schubotz, Moritz wrote: Hi Markus, I think we agree on the goals cf. http://arxiv.org/abs/1404.6179 By the way the texvc dialect is now 13 years old at least. For now it's required to be 100% compatible to the texvc dialect in order to use wikidata in Mediawiki

Re: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features

2016-02-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What does it do then? I understand that it is a dialect and the only use I understand is English WIkipedia. Thanks, GerardM On 3 February 2016 at 13:59, Daniel Kinzler wrote: > Am 03.02.2016 um 13:57 schrieb Gerard Meijssen: > > Hoi, > > Do I understand

Re: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features

2016-02-02 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! > Can you try again please? And in an in-cognito window? I just tried it > and it works for me: https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Q649 We've had some > issues with local store though. Weird, does work for me incognito but not when logged in. > The datatype changes but the value type stays

Re: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features

2016-02-02 Thread Moritz Schubotz
The string is interpreted by the math extension in the same way as the Math extension interprets the text between the tags. There is an API to extract identifiers and the packages required to render the input with regular latex from here: http://api.formulasearchengine.com/v1/?doc or also

Re: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features

2016-02-02 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > >> Can you try again please? And in an in-cognito window? I just tried it >> and it works for me: https://test.wikidata.org/wiki/Q649 We've had some >> issues with local store though. > > Weird, does work for me

Re: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features

2016-02-01 Thread Markus Krötzsch
On 01.02.2016 17:14, Lydia Pintscher wrote: Hey folks :) I just sat down with Katie to plan the next important feature deployments that are coming up this month. Here is the plan: * new datatype for mathematical expressions: We'll get it live on test.wikidata.org

[Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features

2016-02-01 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Hey folks :) I just sat down with Katie to plan the next important feature deployments that are coming up this month. Here is the plan: * new datatype for mathematical expressions: We'll get it live on test.wikidata.org tomorrow and then bring it to wikidata.org on the 9th * Article Placeholder:

Re: [Wikidata] upcoming deployments/features

2016-02-01 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 8:44 PM Markus Krötzsch < mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote: > On 01.02.2016 17:14, Lydia Pintscher wrote: > > Hey folks :) > > > > I just sat down with Katie to plan the next important feature > > deployments that are coming up this month. Here is the plan: > > * new