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In T284870#7153934 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T284870#7153934>,
@Yupik wrote:
> The contributors who wrote the article on sjd in the incubator have used
lowercase for the other eastern Saami languages
<https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/W
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Some language codes appear with autonyms in wmgExtraLanguageNames Wikimedia's
InitialiseSettings.php
<https://noc.wikimedia.org/c
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No objection in principle. I do hope that people will use it consistently and
responsibly only where necessary, and won't duplicate everything in all the
variants of English.
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In T282512#7076823 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T282512#7076823>,
@Amire80 wrote:
>> Manchu, as a language written in the Mongolian script whose code is less
controversial than mvf;
>
> OK, and mvf is OK, too. Is there such a task
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In T282512#7130296 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T282512#7130296>,
@Mbch331 wrote:
> In T282512#7080302 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T282512#7080302>,
@Mahir256 wrote:
>
>> In T282512#7076823 <https://phabricator.wi
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OK.
Just curious, is there a plan to add anything except the list at
https://toponymie.gouv.qc.ca/ ? Lexemes, etc.?
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> Hausa in the Arabic script (Ajami), since Hausa is one of the focus
languages of the Abstract Wikipedia;
OK.
> Manchu, as a language written in the Mongolian script whose code is less
controversial than mvf;
OK, and mvf is O
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When the new Vector and the top language selector box are one, I can't find a
way to link an article to other articles about the same topic
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I couldn't get a response from other people in the language committee. I
don't want to block this, and I want to allow both Osage and Latin scripts in a
proper and structured way.
Technically, can we do `osa` that will default to the Osage script, and
`osa-latn
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Sure, it's valid. I recently added it for translatewiki.
Just curious, what's the source of the request?
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In T180771#6916776 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T180771#6916776>,
@Mbch331 wrote:
> @Yejianfei There is no Langcom approval yet to add those languages.
To clarify, the keyword here is "yet". I'm not against against cdo-hani in
princ
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Approved
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Good to go.
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OK, I received several comments from speakers saying that parentheses are OK
(example <https://github.com/wikimedia/language-data/issues/141>), so let's do
`nan-hani` with `閩南語（漢字）`.
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:facepalm:
You did, of course, and I missed it :)
So sure, it can be added.
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`pap-aw` is probably OK, but can you please specify what kind of information
do you plan to add in this language? Lexemes, labels, values, etc.?
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Actually no, a moment.
If the autonym for cdo-hani doesn't have parentheses, should nan-hani have
parentheses? I'd really love to hear from someone who knows Chinese well.
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Let's do `nan-hani` and see how it works.
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A bit of background: this comes after a discussion on Telegram, where I
wondered by should ms-arab be used and not ms-x-Q83942
<https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Lexeme:L31550=34041>,
which already works
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OK, this can be added.
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OK to add it.
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Is anyone adding these codes? @Mbch331
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OK, got it. Go for it.
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It's legit, but it's on the way to being supported in core MediaWiki, do
adding it for lexemes will soon become redundant. Just complete the Most Used
messages in translatewiki, and you'll get it.
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Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation!
The languages are clearly legitimate, but I'm not entirely sure what to do
about the scripts here. For what it's worth, there's a bit of content in both
of them in the Incubator, in their own scripts. If at the moment
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In T272243#6754478 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T272243#6754478>,
@Nikerabbit wrote:
>> I think it would make sense to limit translations into new languages on
translatewiki.net
>
> We can set the list of allowed languages in
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The languages are probably legit, but is there anyone who actually knows them
and plans to add lexemes in them?
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Related? - T243250 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243250>
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Not sure where is the good place to put my feedback of this kind... I'll put
it here as a comment, but if there's a better place let me know.
TLDR:
1. The need to view edit a //whole// item every time is a practical problem.
It is often useful
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Should these be codes? Can't they be just spelling variants, as it is done
for Hebrew?
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With a bit of work, `syl` in the Sylheti script will soon be supported in
core MediaWiki, and if it's supported in core, it doesn't have to be added
especially for lexemes. Is it very urgent to add lexemes in it already now? If
someone knows this language well, I
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Thanks to @Ladsgroup's work to T253439: Eliminate the toil in WMF wiki
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These are fine.
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In T270006#6689190 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T270006#6689190>,
@Jdlrobson wrote:
> We don't have any code relating to this, we use the mediawiki api for
obtaining languages. I suspect this is a problem in the caching layer but would
have no i
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The Wikidata item Q6048774 was merged on the afternoon of December 11 2020:
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More than 24
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The code for Ngémba is missing.
Sepedi, also known as Northern Sotho, is already supported with the code
`nso`.
Pullar (`fuc`) and Fulfulde (`fub`) may be already supported with the `ff`
code. If this is not OK, then perhaps this can be added, but I'd like
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Not sure, and I prefer not to decide all by myself. I emailed the Langcom
mailing list.
But I don't want to be a blocker, so if there's no reply in a week, go with
`oj`, I guess.
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Actually, please, no.
At least not without better examples.
None of the examples in the community discussion justify a different code.
All the examples are just not-so-correct values of a property that is marked as
"deprecated". Are there any othe
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Oh, I missed it, sorry! It's not so usual. Give me a day to check it. If you
don't hear more in 24 hours, go ahead.
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Hmmm. It's legitimate in general, but it looks like it's a macrolanguage
code. By itself, it's not a problem, but it does require clarification, so I
want to ask the person who plans to contribute strings in it: Do you plan to
contribute in some kind of a common
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Yes, sufficiently distinct and useful for lexemes.
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Sounds OK.
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Sorry, sent too early:
... And Babel languages can be there, too. We did it in Compact Language
Links, and the code can be copied from there.
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In T258244#6622573 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258244#6622573>,
@Raymond wrote:
> In T258244#6622555 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258244#6622555>,
@Amire80 wrote:
>
>>
>
> Our user research showed th
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Is this still relevant?
And is this related to ULS and Compact Links?
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Same comment as at T266525 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T266525>:
It's possible to use the `quickList` parameter when initializing ULS with the
`.uls()` function. You can see some examples in https://codesearch.wmcloud.org .
Which languages
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It's possible to use the `quickList` parameter when initializing ULS with the
`.uls()` function. You can see some examples in https://codesearch.wmcloud.org .
Which languages to put there is up to the designer and the product manager.
Putting the user's
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In T212313#6614222 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212313#6614222>, @MJL
wrote:
> In T212313#6611889 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212313#6611889>,
@Amire80 wrote:
>
>> If MediaWiki messages can be different in a way that
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In T212313#6611739 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212313#6611739>, @MJL
wrote:
> In T212313#6611541 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T212313#6611541>,
@Amire80 wrote:
>
>> Are there any examples of where the values in "Eng
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Are there any examples of where the values in "English" and in "Indian
English" would be different?
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So, we already have these:
- Fully supported everywhere: Wikipedia, MediaWiki, Wikidata, language-data,
and translatewiki:
- mn - Mongolian, Cyrillic script. (Maybe not perfectly standard, because
it should be khk and mn is a macro language, but that's
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OK, fine with me.
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Probably okay, but for which things will it be used, for example?
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az-cyrl is OK.
For Arabic script we already have azb. Is az-arab any different?
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In T265782#6558041 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265782#6558041>,
@Raymond wrote:
> Does it really make sense to have "non" and "non-latn" at the same time?
Could be a source of inconsistencies. Would it be possible to remo
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OK.
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In T265297#6539186 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265297#6539186>,
@Linguoboy wrote:
> An example is that I'd like to create an item for the Osage principal chief
Baconrind, whose native name is transcribed by Carolyn Quintero in her Osage
D
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@Linguoboy, can you please give examples of values that you will add, and
according to which orthographic or transliteration system? This will help
define the best values.
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GREAT COOL TO SEE A REQUEST FOR OSAGE!!! Such a cool-looking script.
Yes, it can be added of course.
I'm not opposed to osa-latn //if it's needed// as a distinct thing. Consider
simply entering the Latin script as transliteration where needed.
I can
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Uhh, T137810 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137810> is long.
Can anyone summarize why is cmg better than mvf?
We already have mvf in Incubator and translatewiki. Or is this specifically
supposed to be for the old variety of the language?
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Of course, go for it.
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Looks good to me.
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Makes perfect sense to me. Perhaps it can be done as part of the "Desktop
Refresh" project.
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Shouldn't it be like in Hebrew, where the same lexeme has a default spelling
(probably the same as ja-jpan) and variants identified by Q numbers?
I'm not really opposed to it, but what's the advantage of ja-hira, etc.?
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Thanks for the examples! OK to add it.
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In T254968#6433879 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254968#6433879>,
@Mbch331 wrote:
>> I might be wrong, but I think that Lexemes and monolingual values are
distinct.
>
> Yes, they are distinct. Lexeme languages don't incl
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Oh, thank you so much for the link to the dictionary!
//Le sentiment, peut-être illusoire, que l'introduction à un dictionnaire
n'est jamais beaucoup consultée nous fait réduire la nôtre à l'essentiel.// —
I have to disagree with that, I //love// reading
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How distinct is it from lij with no qualifiers? Do they have different
spelling rules? Are there cases where the same thing would have to be written
in both lij and lij-mc?
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Can you give sone examples of where it will be used, with actual text?
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Amire80 added a comment.
Oh come on, can't we just add both phn-phnx and phn-latn?
I'm not sure about the technical considerations, but both seem useful. It's a
long dead language, and in the modern world both the original script and the
transliteration is useful to users.
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Amire80 added a comment.
Sure, add it.
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https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258331
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To: Amire80
Cc: Mbch331, jhsoby, Amire80, VIGNERON, Aklapper, Fralambert, Akuckartz,
darthmon_wmde, Nandana
Amire80 added a comment.
Ouch, so sorry about missing this. The LangCom often needs a poke :(
It's OK to add it, of course. I'm surprised it's not supported already.
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This language is needed for native names, for example at
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4248336 and
https
Amire80 added a comment.
In T69659#6099209 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69659#6099209>,
@kaldari wrote:
> If we go down this road, we're going to be muddying Wikipedia's
more-or-less clearly defined infobox parameters with awkward, inconsistent data
(or data su
Amire80 added a comment.
Looks good to me, shouldn't be controversial at all.
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To: Amire80
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Amire80 added a comment.
I'm not hearing any objections from the Language Committee, so I'm probably
going to start adding these codes.
Let's start with nan-hani. What will be the autonym for it?
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Amire80 added a comment.
Can this be done automatically to all the affected pages?
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https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T249565
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To: Addshore, Amire80
Cc: Amire80, Sunny00217, RhinosF1, jcrespo
Amire80 added a comment.
Perhaps this will be interesting to some people.
A Hebrew Wikipedia user complained that adapting the category
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mountains_of_Graham_Land to Hebrew
didn't work. I checked the sitelinks, and it was correctly linked
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Just adjusting the project tags.
But I agree with @Dvorapa - this is not a bug. The way to fix it is to update
the template. Templates shouldn't add
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Amire80 added a comment.
I started a discussion in the Langcom about this.
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The Language selector (ULS) in the SDC caption form in Upload Wizard doesn't
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I tried to link between the English Wikipedia article Latvian orthography
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvian_orthogra
Amire80 added a comment.
And what are the languages for which it's possible to use real codes?
Languages in Names.php? Something else?
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I cannot add lexemes in the Chukchi and Dagbani languages.
They already appear in monolingual codes, but it still doesn't work for
adding lexemes
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I was trying to search Wikidata for `לרמונטוב`, which is the Hebrew spelling
of the last name of the Russian poet Mikhail Lermontov
<ht
Amire80 added a comment.
This applies to every form, not just the title at the top.
The HTML elements already have the lang attribute, but not the dir attribute
for some reason. Every element to which the lang attribute is applied, must
have the dir attribute, too. Here's an example
Amire80 added a comment.
For example, make a bot that gives the Confirmed right on Wikidata to people
who have fifty edits on other projects.
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