[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

Ankry added a comment. In T128173#6214317 , @Tpt wrote: > I believe that the approach would be: > For each language: > > 1. If there is a local inter-language link to this language in the wikitext of the page, use it and stop the

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

Addshore added a comment. In T128173#6213769 , @Tpt wrote: > Since yesterday, if a Wikisource page is connected to a Wikidata item that states that it is an edition of the work using P629 ,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

Ankry added a comment. In T128173#6213769 , @Tpt wrote: > Since yesterday, if a Wikisource page is connected to a Wikidata item that states that it is an edition of the work using P629 , the

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

Tpt added a comment. Since yesterday, if a Wikisource page is connected to a Wikidata item that states that it is an edition of the work using P629 , the sitelinks of the work item are displayed on the page in the "In other languages" sidebar.

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

gerritbot added a comment. Change 594353 **merged** by jenkins-bot: [mediawiki/extensions/Wikisource@master] Adds work sitelinks to the Other languages sidebar https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594353 TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128173 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

gerritbot added a comment. Change 553866 **merged** by jenkins-bot: [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] Add a new hook to display extra language links https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/553866 TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128173 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

gerritbot added a comment. Change 595258 **merged** by jenkins-bot: [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] Introduce SiteLinksForDisplayLookup https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595258 TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128173 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

gerritbot added a comment. Change 595257 **merged** by jenkins-bot: [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] Introduce LangLinkHandlerFactory https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595257 TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128173 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

gerritbot added a comment. Change 595256 **merged** by jenkins-bot: [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] Move LangLinkHandler to the Hooks namespace https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595256 TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128173 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

gerritbot added a comment. Change 595256 had a related patch set uploaded (by Tpt; owner: Tpt): [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] Move LangLinkHandler to the Hooks namespace https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595256 TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128173 EMAIL

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

gerritbot added a comment. Change 595257 had a related patch set uploaded (by Tpt; owner: Tpt): [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] Introduce LangLinkHandlerFactory https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595257 TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128173 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

gerritbot added a comment. Change 595258 had a related patch set uploaded (by Tpt; owner: Tpt): [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] Introduce SiteLinksForDisplayLookup https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/595258 TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128173 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

gerritbot added a comment. Change 594353 had a related patch set uploaded (by Tpt; owner: Tpt): [mediawiki/extensions/Wikisource@master] Adds work sitelinks to the Other languages sidebar https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/594353 TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128173

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

Billinghurst added a comment. In T128173#5828946 , @Uzume wrote: > The issue becomes how to represent multiple edition links in Mediawiki toolbars across multiple WMF wikis across their projects. Currently, as implemented via WD

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

Uzume added a comment. The issue becomes how to represent multiple edition links in Mediawiki toolbars across multiple WMF wikis across their projects. Currently, as implemented via WD sitelinks, we only allow one link per wiki per project per WD item. This is in part owning to the limited

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

beleg_tal added a comment. It is important to note, however, that this does not only affect Wikisource, but all wikis. A Wikipedia editor who sees a Wikipedia article that corresponds to a Wiktionary or Wikisource page, will be tempted to incorrectly set the sitelinks in Wikidata for

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

beleg_tal added a comment. @Uzume okay, I see what you mean. and I think we are in agreement. The Wiktionary example in particular is very helpful. The Interwiki system is not really a Wikidata thing at all but rather a MediaWiki thing that is implemented everywhere by default but

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

Uzume added a comment. @beleg_tal: I agree with your statements, especially "interwiki system needs to be flexible enough to accommodate different data models", however, I do not think this is an inherently Wikidata issue. For example: Wikitionary has a very different model where it

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

beleg_tal added a comment. On the contrary, the interwiki solution baked into MediaWiki makes assumptions about Wikidata's interwiki links that make sense on some wikis (like Wikipedia) and not on other wikis (like Wikisource). The interwiki system needs to be flexible enough to accommodate

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

Uzume added a comment. I am not sure this is a good idea or not (its seems like there maybe a few proposals) and I am against implementing this in Wikidata beyond how it already implements things (multiple linked records with one sitelink per wiki per item). That said, I see no issue with

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

gerritbot added a comment. Change 553866 had a related patch set uploaded (by Tpt; owner: Tpt): [mediawiki/extensions/Wikibase@master] [WIP] Adds an hook for adding extra language links https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/553866 TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128173

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

Gymel added a comment. @Billinghurst: I'm trying to take the point of view of WS and *not* that of WD. So when WD has a /clean/ modeling of the situation (separating items for persons from that for articles about that person) then there will be not only translations but a much bigger class

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

Billinghurst added a comment. @gymel What you are describing is related to a topic/subject, not so much a work. Each article would be articulated on the Q-item as "described by source" and links can be provided to each currently. For example for an author, you could call each "described by

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

Gymel added a comment. What I was aiming at: There seems to be a general problem underlying this concrete issue: Wikidata items connected to some WS page typically (?) have exactly one sitelink (namely to the WS page in question) but still there are ~closely related~ items "in other

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

Billinghurst added a comment. In https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128173#2116148, @Gymel wrote: > Just to give the issue another twist, here is something in between the original issue (different editions) and that mentioned by Purodha: > > For Tóbiás Coberus

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

Micru added a comment. @Gymel the issue you describe is different and should be in a different task. This task is only for the "edition/edition of" relationship. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128173 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

Purodha added a comment. Indeed, not the same. Only similar. I wonder if one technique could remedy both - a "possibly" guts feeling at best. :-) Thanks for pointing me to the task. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128173 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

Purodha added a comment. A similar problem exists on Incubator. Several languages may have articles on identical topics and should have links to each other. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128173 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T128173: Represent editions as interwiki links on Wikisource

Micru added a comment. Some users have created Lua modules that add extra interwiki links based on properties https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Names#Template:Interwikis_from_P460_.28Q21529474.29 Maybe it could be possible to do something like that for editions?