[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T63958: Use existing $dateFormats to format dates on Wikidata
Phreelance added a comment. This sounds reasonable. Using the raw ISO format "-mm-dd" would be a better localisation for Mandarin than using "dd mm月 ". I cannot be as certain for the other ymd languages, without a closer look at the linguistic data. I'm not sure what kind of scientific argument is being asked for, but on the subject of not assuming that users can work things out, I would recommend the following paper: http://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/education/skills-matter_9789264258051-en It's long but eye-opening. A summary is also available here: https://www.nngroup.com/articles/computer-skill-levels/TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63958EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: thiemowmde, PhreelanceCc: Phreelance, KTC, Samat, deryckchan, Nikki, Snaevar, Rical, Agabi10, gerritbot, thiemowmde, RP88, Aklapper, Mbch331, Ricordisamoa, Liuxinyu970226, Wikidata-bugs, Addshore, He7d3r, PiRSquared17, Lydia_Pintscher, Stryn, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Lewizho99, Maathavan, MuhammadShuaib, Izno, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T63958: Use existing $dateFormats to format dates on Wikidata
Phreelance added a comment. Nikki's analogy is spot on! In general, it is a bad idea to assume that users will be able to understand something non-obvious, and this is an even worse idea when it comes to multiple languages. As a native English speaker, with a moderate level of Mandarin, and as a software developer and computational linguist, when I first looked at "22 五月 2017", my first thought was that there was some mistake, because it just looks garbled. For instance, was "22五" supposed to be one number? Of course it's *possible* to work it out, but that's beside the point. This is a failed attempt at localisation, needs to be fixed, and cannot be written off as something that's incorrect but understandable.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T63958EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: thiemowmde, PhreelanceCc: Phreelance, KTC, Samat, deryckchan, Nikki, Snaevar, Rical, Agabi10, gerritbot, thiemowmde, RP88, Aklapper, Mbch331, Ricordisamoa, Liuxinyu970226, Wikidata-bugs, Addshore, He7d3r, PiRSquared17, Lydia_Pintscher, Stryn, GoranSMilovanovic, Adik2382, Th3d3v1ls, Ramalepe, Liugev6, QZanden, Lewizho99, Maathavan, MuhammadShuaib, Izno, LNDDYL, Psychoslave, aude, Gryllida, Shizhao, Arrbee, Jay8g___ Wikidata-bugs mailing list Wikidata-bugs@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata-bugs
