[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T138332: Interwiki links to/from Multilingual Wikisource

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T138332: interwiki links to/from Multilingual Wikisource

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  Yann, Jun 21 2016
  Description
  
  This should not be a blocking issue if we disregard T206426 
: Storing multiple sitelinks to a 
multilingual wiki which I do not think we should consider implementing except 
for possibly allowing sitelinks to be prefixed (a la Special:MyLanguage/) on 
their way to their target wiki. See my comment on that task.
  
  As such, I believe we should handle mul.ws as a oldwikisource multilingual 
wiki in the same fashion we handle other multilingual wikis like: meta, 
mediawiki, commons, species, wikimania, wikidata, etc.
  
  If we want to renamed oldwikisource across the board (leaving some backwards 
compatibility for old interwiki links), that is probably a good idea too. I 
recommend mulwikisource. However, that should not block editors from 
manipulating Wikidata sitelinks for this wiki (as per Jarekt's earlier comment, 
apparently 11 Wikidata items already have such sitelinks but they do not 
display properly on Wikidata entity pages and normal editors cannot otherwise 
manipulate them).
  
  If we do this and handle this wiki the same as other multilingual wikis this 
has some implications:
  
this wiki will likely show up on Wikidata entity pages under "Other sites" 
and not "Wikisource" (we could change the label to "Wikisource monolingual" or 
similar)
if we are on a non-wikisource monolingual site (like English Wikipedia), we 
need to consider how toolbar interwiki links should show when we have multiple 
wikisource links: one to multilingual Wikisource and one to monolingual 
Wikisource in the current language (e.g., English Wikisource).
if we are on a monolingual Wikisource site the (e.g., English Wikisource), 
the toolbar interwiki links should show both other sister projects links in the 
current language (e.g., English Wikipedia) as well as the multilingual wiki 
links such as multilingual Wikisource.
if we are on a multilingual wiki site how should the toolbar interwiki 
links look when there is a sitelink to multilingual Wikisource and a 
monolingual Wikisource in the same language as the current wiki. Potentially 
two Wikisource links need to be considered. I recommend we specify multilingual 
Wikisource and then just Wikisource as we currently are doing.
  
  For the most part this is how standalone multilingual wikis are already 
handled so the number of cases that needs consideration and possible changes 
should be minimal.
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Status  Subtype AssignedTask

  
  Open  NoneT109579  
[Epic] Give more sister projects access to Wikidata
  
  Stalled   NoneT54971 
 [Goal] Sitelinks and arbitrary 
accesses to Incubator, OldWikisource and BetaWikiversity
  
  Open  NoneT138332  
interwiki links to/from Multilingual Wikisource
  
  Resolved  Ladsgroup   T204706 
 Investigation: status of 
oldwikisource in relation to wikidatawiki
  Event Timeline
  Yann created this task.Jun 21 2016, 10:11
  Restricted Application added subscribers: Zppix, Aklapper. · View Herald 
TranscriptJun 21 2016, 10:11
  Yann added a comment.Jun 21 2016, 10:12
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  ex: https://wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Henri_Poincar%C3%A9
  Thibaut120094 awarded a token.Jun 21 2016, 10:14
  Thibaut120094 added a project: Wikisource.
  Thibaut120094 added a subscriber: Thibaut120094.
  Mbch331 added subscribers: Lydia_Pintscher, Mbch331.Jun 21 2016, 11:50
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  This is a know issue and is handled in T54971 
. Problem is that 
https://wikisource.org is a multilingual version of Wikisource and can't be 
handled easily in the current code. See also 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikisource/Development. I think 
@Lydia_Pintscher could tell more about this.
  matej_suchanek added a parent task: T109579 
: [Epic] Give more sister projects 
access to Wikidata.Aug 13 2016, 08:04
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T138332: interwiki links to/from Multilingual Wikisource

[beleg_tal]

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  Regarding "an item can only link to one page on a given wiki" - this is 
already the case on some other wikis and Wikidata has means to handle this 
using Property:P2959  "permanent 
duplicated item"
  
  For example
  
  https://nn.wikipedia.org/wiki/O_Canada --> 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q93359
  https://nn.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hn/O_Canada --> 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q12715470

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To: beleg_tal
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jhsoby, PokestarFan, Nikki, Liuxinyu970226, Candalua, Mbch331, Lydia_Pintscher, 
Thibaut120094, Aklapper, Yann, Zppix, darthmon_wmde, DannyS712, Nandana, Lahi, 
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[Lydia_Pintscher]

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  Ok it seems to work now to add links but they are not shown in the Item -.-  
Adding to camp for investigation.

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Ash_Crow, jhsoby, PokestarFan, Nikki, Liuxinyu970226, Candalua, Mbch331, 
Lydia_Pintscher, Thibaut120094, Aklapper, Yann, Zppix, darthmon_wmde, 
DannyS712, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, Mahir256, QZanden, 
LawExplorer, _jensen, rosalieper, Bodhisattwa, Scott_WUaS, Jonas, Samwilson, 
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[Liuxinyu970226]

Liuxinyu970226 removed a parent task: T109579: [Epic] Give more sister projects access to Wikidata.
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[Liuxinyu970226]

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