Izno added a comment.
In T148357#2730081, @kaldari wrote:
We should expect that a naive user will want everything that Wikidata knows.
If that were true, there would be examples of uses that actually checked for "no value", which I've never seen.
I don't see how that follows. A naive user doesn
kaldari added a comment.
We should expect that a naive user will want everything that Wikidata knows.
If that were true, there would be examples of uses that actually checked for "no value", which I've never seen.
To which users are you referring, out of curiosity?
I'm referring to users of Engl
Izno added a comment.
This request seems clearly related to this discussion at MT:Wikidata on en.WP. Same actor and almost-same request. ;)
However I think it doesn't make a difference for an infobox on Wikipedia. Or?
Most infoboxes on Wikipedia aren't using the naive property parser function but
kaldari added a comment.
@matej_suchanek: That's definitely a possibility in theory, but in practice everyone seems to assume that {{#Property}} either returns an actual value or nothing.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148357EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/
matej_suchanek added a comment.
In T148357#2729069, @Lydia_Pintscher wrote:
However I think it doesn't make a difference for an infobox on Wikipedia. Or?
There might be an infobox field saying "no children" which makes it different from a missing value, just Wikidata-like "no value" is different
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment.
In T148357#2729025, @matej_suchanek wrote:
Do we not want to keep the difference between "no value" and "missing value"?
On Wikidata it really matters and I definitely want to keep it. However I think it doesn't make a difference for an infobox on Wikipedia. Or?T
matej_suchanek added a comment.
Do we not want to keep the difference between "no value" and "missing value"?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148357EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: matej_suchanekCc: matej_suchanek, Pigsonthewing, Ly
kaldari added a comment.
@Lydia_Pintscher: That's fine with me. Let's just change the "no value" behavior for now.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148357EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: kaldariCc: Pigsonthewing, Lydia_Pintscher, Akl
Lydia_Pintscher added a comment.
For "no value" I think this makes sense. I think for "unknown" value we do want to return "unknown" because that is potentially important information.
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