[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

Lydia_Pintscher closed this task as "Resolved". Lydia_Pintscher moved this task from Product Verification to Our work done on the Wikidata Dev Team (Sprint-∞) board. Lydia_Pintscher claimed this task. Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. \o/ TASK DETAIL

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

Michael moved this task from Parents/Waiting to Product Verification on the Wikidata Dev Team (Sprint-∞) board. Michael added a comment. This should be verifiable on Wednesday, after the train has reached Wikidata. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288511 WORKBOARD

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

Michael closed subtask T323810: Mismatch Finder: Format time values with options showcalendar=auto as Resolved. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288511 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Michael Cc: jmkeil,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE closed subtask T321174: Mismatch Finder: Replace parsed value’s calendar model with meta_wikidata_value (if present) before formatting it when showing mismatches as Resolved. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288511 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE closed subtask T323568: Format calendar model in non-HTML output formats if needed as Resolved. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288511 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE Cc:

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE closed subtask T321165: Mismatch Finder: add a new column to the CSV file format and database as Resolved. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288511 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To:

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

HasanAkgun_WMDE added a comment. Oh, that's great! I'll proceed like you said then, thanks a lot! TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288511 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: HasanAkgun_WMDE Cc: HasanAkgun_WMDE, noarave,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. Yes. The affected people have already been informed about that. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288511 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Lydia_Pintscher Cc: HasanAkgun_WMDE, noarave,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

HasanAkgun_WMDE added a comment. In T288511#8385726 , @Lydia_Pintscher wrote: > I believe we said the meta_wikidata_value column should always be present but it can be empty. Does that address your concern @HasanAkgun_WMDE? When we

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. I believe we said the meta_wikidata_value column should always be present but it can be empty. Does that address your concern @HasanAkgun_WMDE? TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288511 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

HasanAkgun_WMDE added a comment. We should allow CSV files without `meta_wikidata_value` column because we are adding it as optional and it's not good for backward compatibility. However, we have another optional column in our CSV files, `external_url` and unlike `meta_wikidata_value`, the

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE closed subtask T321173: Mismatch Finder: Parse and format date values when displaying mismatches as Resolved. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288511 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To:

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE added a comment. For the sprint 9 planning: we estimate that 5 story points remain. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288511 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE Cc: noarave,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE added a comment. > check if `19. century` is already accepted as input; if not, figure out where it gets rejected I tested it locally – it is indeed accepted. You can already use `19. century` (and, I assume, any other value that will pass through wbparsevalue,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE added a subscriber: noarave. Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE added a comment. **Task breakdown notes:** - In the input, we only need to support English (e.g. `19. century` but not `19. Jahrhundert`) - During import, we already parse the value to ensure it’s valid

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

karapayneWMDE moved this task from Unified prioritized backlog to Sprint-∞ on the Wikidata Dev Team board. karapayneWMDE edited projects, added Wikidata Dev Team (Sprint-∞); removed Wikidata Dev Team. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288511 WORKBOARD

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

karapayneWMDE set the point value for this task to "8". TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288511 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: karapayneWMDE Cc: ItamarWMDE, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Hjfocs, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE added a comment. Here’s an example of what Wikidata dates in the Mismatch Finder currently look like (URL ): F35595287: image.png TASK DETAIL

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

Lydia_Pintscher added a comment. As for how to show it: I thought we'd show it the same way as on Wikidata with the same rules? So for example a date that we'd usually parse as Gregorian but is set to Julian would show the calendar model in superscript. Like here: F35590816: image.png

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

ItamarWMDE added a comment. Yeah, I think that's the right approach, at least that's the first one I'd go with ;) TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288511 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: ItamarWMDE Cc: ItamarWMDE,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE added a comment. Sorry, I only meant the added column as the storage change. (The added CSV column probably corresponds directly to an added column in the `mismatches` table as well?) TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288511 EMAIL PREFERENCES

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

ItamarWMDE added a comment. In T288511#8320450 , @Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE wrote: > [...] We know that we want to change the way dates are stored [...] I don't think that is true. Currently, wikidata values are stored as strings, and

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE added a comment. I think the first question is more or less the combination of the second and third. We know that we want to change the way dates are stored, but we also need to know what we’ll then do with this information, how we’ll show it to users – otherwise, if

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

ItamarWMDE added a comment. In T288511#8285994 , @Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE wrote: > We also think this needs to go through story writing. What happens with the calendar model and precision? In what way are dates currently stored, and how

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE added a comment. Task breakdown notes: To infer the precision and calendar model, we can probably just use the wbparsevalues API without reimplementing this logic (see example API sandbox

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

ItamarWMDE updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288511 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: ItamarWMDE Cc: Hjfocs, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

ItamarWMDE updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288511 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: ItamarWMDE Cc: Hjfocs, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

ItamarWMDE updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288511 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: ItamarWMDE Cc: Hjfocs, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

Lydia_Pintscher updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288511 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Lydia_Pintscher Cc: Hjfocs, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

Lydia_Pintscher added a project: Wikidata Dev Team. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288511 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Lydia_Pintscher Cc: Hjfocs, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, jmkeil, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

Lydia_Pintscher triaged this task as "High" priority. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288511 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Lydia_Pintscher Cc: Hjfocs, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, jmkeil, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

Lydia_Pintscher closed subtask T312098: Investigation: improved date handling in Mismatch Finder as Resolved. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288511 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Lydia_Pintscher Cc: Hjfocs, Aklapper,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

Lydia_Pintscher updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288511 EMAIL PREFERENCES https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ To: Lydia_Pintscher Cc: Hjfocs, Aklapper, Lydia_Pintscher, jmkeil, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE,

[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T288511: improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision

Lydia_Pintscher renamed this task from "figure out calendar model handling" to "improve handling of dates - calendar models and precision". Lydia_Pintscher updated the task description. TASK DETAIL https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T288511 EMAIL PREFERENCES