Re: [Wikidata-l] The experience for (local project) editors, post-Phase 2

2013-03-29 Thread Michael Hale
Oops. As of yesterday a template does exist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikidata From: hale.michael...@live.com To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:49:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [Wikidata-l] The experience for (local project) editors, post-Phase 2 We'll probabl

[Wikidata-l] weekly summary #51

2013-03-29 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Heya folks :) Here’s your summary of what happened around Wikidata over the last week. The wiki version is at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/Status_updates/2013_03_29 = Development = * The first 11 Wikipedias can now include data from Wikidata in their articles: http://blog.wikimedia.de/

Re: [Wikidata-l] The experience for (local project) editors, post-Phase 2

2013-03-29 Thread Michael Hale
We'll probably also want a template for Wikidata like the one for Wikiquote, etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikiquote I can go ahead and make it if it doesn't already exist somewhere that I haven't found. From: hale.michael...@live.com To: wikidata-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Fri, 29

Re: [Wikidata-l] The experience for (local project) editors, post-Phase 2

2013-03-29 Thread Michael Hale
I wrote on the wikEd developer's talk page and said I could help out if needed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Cacycle/wikEd#Inline_links_to_Wikidata_itemsThat still wouldn't help first time editors that come across the syntax unexpectedly though. We should make sure it is described on th

Re: [Wikidata-l] The experience for (local project) editors, post-Phase 2

2013-03-29 Thread Michael Hale
I didn't know about the VisualEditor initiative, but I use the wikEd gadget that you can enable under your preferences for the English Wikipedia. It makes links to images clickable while editing, among other things. If we could get a similar experience to link to a Wikidata item that could be a

Re: [Wikidata-l] The experience for (local project) editors, post-Phase 2

2013-03-29 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Steven Walling, 29/03/2013 19:39: The thread is at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Wikidata_phase_2_is_coming_soon Doesn't seem to be en.wiki-related, so I'll reply here: "normal users" are not able to edit infoboxes anyway, so Wikidata is the first step to m

[Wikidata-l] Fwd: [Ops] site issues yesterday - jobqueue and wikidata

2013-03-29 Thread Greg Grossmeier
Hello all, This is Asher's writeup of the jobqueue disruption that happened yesterday afternoon Pacific time. He's not on this list, so please keep him in the cc: if you want him to see your message. Greg - Forwarded message from Asher Feldman - > Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:27:13 -0700

[Wikidata-l] The experience for (local project) editors, post-Phase 2

2013-03-29 Thread Steven Walling
Hey all, I was going to just email Denny and Lydia about this question, but I am like most editors and I'm lazy, so I preferred to post on my home project Village Pump. ;-) I have some concerns surrounding the user experience implications of Phase 2, especially if properties syntax starts getting

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 2 live on the first 11 Wikipedias

2013-03-29 Thread Michael Hale
It would be nice to never have to do any additional validation on the client, but in general I'm pretty sure it's impossible to specify server validation for every type in advance. Let's assume I want to upload gene sequences. I could go through the long process of waiting to get a new type appr

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 2 live on the first 11 Wikipedias

2013-03-29 Thread Jan Kučera
> parse it into a date on the client-side. this is exactly why I do not want to do. we should validate inputs, not (try to) parse outputs 2013/3/29 Michael Hale > It doesn't hinder the expansion of Wikidata because the current types are > flexible. Added types will improve performance and simp

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 2 live on the first 11 Wikipedias

2013-03-29 Thread Michael Hale
It doesn't hinder the expansion of Wikidata because the current types are flexible. Added types will improve performance and simplify client access for some scenarios, but every scenario I can think of is possible with the currently available types. If you have data that you would like to enter,

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 2 live on the first 11 Wikipedias

2013-03-29 Thread Jan Kučera
Contrats! Anyways, I still miss various data types to be available for properties - unavailability of these greatly hinders the expansion of wikidata database. Any plans on how fast new (and comprehensive) data types will be introduced to wikidata.org? 2013/3/28 Daniel Kinzler > On 28.03.2013 1

Re: [Wikidata-l] [Wikitech-l] Wikidata queries

2013-03-29 Thread Petr Onderka
How will be the queries formatted? Do I understand it correctly that a QueryConcept is a JSON object? Have you considered using something more in line with the format of action=query queries? Though I guess what you need is much more complicated and trying to fit it into the action=query model woul