Re: [Wikidata-l] Queries - can they be stored as statements in Category/List items?

2014-03-08 Thread David Cuenca
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Denny Vrandečić vrande...@gmail.com wrote: I still disagree - let me explain why. I think that trying to express a query definition into a single statement is very hard. Having a specific Query namespace allows us to create a completely new UI for them, allows

Re: [Wikidata-l] Queries - can they be stored as statements in Category/List items?

2014-03-07 Thread David Cuenca
Denny, sorry for the confusion, it is a complex topic, or it could also be that I am terribly bad at explaining :) Based on that item page I have made a mock-up which perhaps makes things easier: http://i.imgur.com/1dSfrqx.png The reasoning for this being: 1) there is a well-defined set of

Re: [Wikidata-l] Queries - can they be stored as statements in Category/List items?

2014-03-07 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Micru, thank you for the explanation. I understand better now what you mean. I still disagree - let me explain why. I think that trying to express a query definition into a single statement is very hard. Having a specific Query namespace allows us to create a completely new UI for them, allows

Re: [Wikidata-l] Queries - can they be stored as statements in Category/List items?

2014-03-06 Thread Thomas Douillard
Hi Lydia, in languages such as OWL, a class of item can be defined by a predicate on the properties and values of the item. Will we be able to link a class Qitem to a Wikidata complex query in the corresponding namespace ? For example if we define a class Douglas Adams Novels whose instances are

Re: [Wikidata-l] Queries - can they be stored as statements in Category/List items?

2014-03-06 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 8:32 PM, Thomas Douillard thomas.douill...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lydia, in languages such as OWL, a class of item can be defined by a predicate on the properties and values of the item. Will we be able to link a class Qitem to a Wikidata complex query in the corresponding

Re: [Wikidata-l] Queries - can they be stored as statements in Category/List items?

2014-03-06 Thread David Cuenca
I'm not saying that the results yielded by Category:Books by Jean-Paul Sartre or Category:Books by J.R.R. Tolkien are or should be the same as the result yielded by a corresponding Wikidata query, but the concepts they represent, they are the same. Ditto for lists. (As a further clarification, I

Re: [Wikidata-l] Queries - can they be stored as statements in Category/List items?

2014-03-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What the RFC is about is actually quite simple. It states that the content of most of the lists and categories can be expressed as queries. So when an item is an instance of Wikimedia list article or Wikimedia category page it can be complemented by an is a list of property. For examples, [1]