Re: [Wikidata-l] Locations and times

2013-01-04 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Yes, I knew EDTF, it came up in the previous conversation. Actually, it would be nice to add an EDTF export. (adding to TODO). Re Error detection: yes, that's true. Probably should be there. Adding to todo. (I am not so much worried about error detection, but rather about error reporting...)

Re: [Wikidata-l] Locations and times

2013-01-04 Thread Denny Vrandečić
We have an own datatype planned for shapes, probably something based on the GeoJSON. The alternative would be just to point out to the respective entities in OSM, but OSM has a policy against stuff like historical country borders or geographic range of the long-eared hedgehog, so it is a good idea

Re: [Wikidata-l] Locations and times

2013-01-04 Thread Denny Vrandečić
The problem is is that 20120101 is ambiguous -- it could be either the year 20120101, or the 1st of January of last year. Whereas admittedly it is more likely to be the latter, it might be considered a bit too much magic to guess 2101 as the first of January of 2000 and 2000 as in 20 Mio

Re: [Wikidata-l] Locations and times

2013-01-04 Thread Denny Vrandečić
If you enter 15. Jan 2013 it will know the difference. The goal of the datatype is to understand a point in time within a given precision. 15th of January is not a point in time, it is a recurring date, and therefore not in the domain of this datatype (just as Easter is not, nor Sunday).

Re: [Wikidata-l] Locations and times

2013-01-04 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Whereas I would agree in the case of a calendar, in case of Wikidata I would think there are many historical dates. If someone enters 12, I would assume the year 12 AD and not December 2013 or January 12th, 2013. Also, since we show the interpretation immediately and the editor has direct

Re: [Wikidata-l] Locations and times

2013-01-04 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Should the coordinates 456,-234 be understood as 84, 126, or should they just be an error? 2013/1/3 Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk On 3 January 2013 16:11, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: What it currently does not do is: * enable dates like Date of birth:

Re: [Wikidata-l] Locations and times

2013-01-03 Thread lumeng....@gmail.com
Some time specifications that aren't parsing: 2:34:06pm CDT 10pm 2004-01-01T11:20:10Z Meng On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hi all, continuing from last weeks data values discussion, I would like to invite comments on the following

Re: [Wikidata-l] Locations and times

2013-01-03 Thread swuensch
I tried the coordinate tool with a cordinate i found on geocaching.com N 48° 22.250 E 010° 53.777 the problem is the parser needs data in the formate 48° 22.250 N 010° 53.777 E. There should be an autodetection to accept both inputs. Sk!d On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Denny Vrandečić