Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 1 live on the English Wikipedia

2013-02-15 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Yuri Astrakhan yuriastrak...@gmail.com wrote: We really ought to communicate with the bot owners to significantly modify their bots. It might even make sense to stop them all together until they can be re-designed to take wikidata into account. I could post a

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 1 live on the English Wikipedia

2013-02-15 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com wrote: When? It was planned for the 27th but it looks like we will have to move it a few days because of a meeting at the WMF offices.

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 1 live on the English Wikipedia

2013-02-14 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
I guess it only makes sense if the deployment will be few languages at a time. If at some point you will start switching them in bulk, it might make sense not to do it. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:29 AM, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com wrote: That's a very interesting idea when i check this:

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 1 live on the English Wikipedia

2013-02-14 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Yuri Astrakhan yuriastrak...@gmail.com wrote: I guess it only makes sense if the deployment will be few languages at a time. If at some point you will start switching them in bulk, it might make sense not to do it. The current plan is to do all the remaining

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 1 live on the English Wikipedia

2013-02-14 Thread Amir Ladsgroup
When? On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Yuri Astrakhan yuriastrak...@gmail.com wrote: I guess it only makes sense if the deployment will be few languages at a time. If at some point you will start

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 1 live on the English Wikipedia

2013-02-14 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Amir Ladsgroup ladsgr...@gmail.com wrote: When? It was planned for the 27th but it looks like we will have to move it a few days because of a meeting at the WMF offices. I'll let you know as soon as I know more. Cheers Lydia -- Lydia Pintscher -

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 1 live on the English Wikipedia

2013-02-14 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I prefer to make the API call and not to check by a list of languages. Several reasons: 1. It's more robust in general. 2. Wikibase extension, as well as pywikipedia, can be used on other wikis, too. 3. There are dark corners in Wikimedia wikis - non-standard codes, redirects, locked wikis,

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 1 live on the English Wikipedia

2013-02-14 Thread Marco Fleckinger
Actually when wikidata is running on all wikis we only have to remove the iw-links inside all articles of the same wikidata item. The bots will not have any base for adding the links again and wont do it anymore. Cheers Marco On 02/14/2013 11:29 AM, Amir Ladsgroup wrote: That's a very

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 1 live on the English Wikipedia

2013-02-14 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
We really ought to communicate with the bot owners to significantly modify their bots. It might even make sense to stop them all together until they can be re-designed to take wikidata into account. I could post a comment on most boards to ask IW bots to stop (and to notify the local communities

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 1 live on the English Wikipedia

2013-02-14 Thread Marco Fleckinger
What about a bot to observe bot changes periodically and checking those for unwanted interwiki-operations? On 02/14/2013 11:57 PM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: We really ought to communicate with the bot owners to significantly modify their bots. It might even make sense to stop them all together

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 1 live on the English Wikipedia

2013-02-14 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
I think it might take some time to rewrite and test the new interwiki bot. If the bot operators simply download the latest version, they will continue running the old one until its fixed. If we plan to deploy wikidata to all sites soon, there is really no point in running IW bots any more until

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 1 live on the English Wikipedia

2013-02-14 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Thu, 14 Feb 2013 18:14:19 -0500, Yuri Astrakhan wrote: I think it might take some time to rewrite and test the new interwiki bot. If the bot operators simply download the latest version, they will continue running the old one until its fixed. If we plan to deploy wikidata to all sites soon,

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 1 live on the English Wikipedia

2013-02-13 Thread Denny Vrandečić
You have examples of that? Did not happen to my edits (so far). 2013/2/13 Denny Vrandečić denny.vrande...@wikimedia.de Block them until they behave? 2013/2/13 Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info On 13/02/2013 21:01, Lydia Pintscher wrote: Heya :) Third time's a charm, right? We're live on the

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 1 live on the English Wikipedia

2013-02-13 Thread Amir Ladsgroup
I did this: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/pywikipedia/11073 so updated bots are not a concern anymore :) BTW:congrats. On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Katie Chan k...@ktchan.info wrote: On 13/02/2013 21:31, Denny Vrandečić wrote: You have examples of that? Did not happen to my

Re: [Wikidata-l] phase 1 live on the English Wikipedia

2013-02-13 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
We really ought to change it to dynamic: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=querymeta=wikibase (thanks duh) If there is no error, wikibase is present, disable. This way no update to the blacklist is needed. The query should be re-issued every 30 min to make sure it hasn't changed. The