Re: [Wikidata-l] thoughts about a plan for enabling interlanguage linking

2012-08-12 Thread Snaevar 
Hi, 
 Some inline comments.
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From: Amir E. Aharoni
Sent: 08/12/12 11:56 AM
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Subject: [Wikidata-l] thoughts about a plan for enabling interlanguage linking

 Hi, I'm not sure that it was discussed already. If it was discussed, please 
point me there. I read the Technical proposal and the translatable pages on 
Meta and couldn't find it there. Is there any concrete plan to start the 
migration of the current interlanguage links to Wikidata storage? For example: 
* The interwiki bots' will definitely have to be modified for the Wikidata age. 
Did anybody start a conversation with the operators of these bots?  MerlIwBot 
is the only bot that is compatible with Wikidata.
 Lydia has started a conversation with the operators of the bots that have 
volunteered to transit interwiki links to Wikidata.


 * How will interwiki conflicts be handled? Judging by earlier discussions, I 
suppose that Wikidata will just let pages with conflicts work as they always 
did, but this is an important issue that should be answered in the FAQ.[1]  
Correct. This issue was discussed at: 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikidata/Development/Storyboard_for_linking_Wikipedia_articles_v0.1
 

 * How will bots identify pages that use Wikidata?  Is this 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:MerlIwBot/WikiData  what you are looking 
for?  I am going to leave this question mostly unanswered for others. This 
might be related to what you are talking about.  Maybe the answer to all of the 
above questions is: The Wikidata developers intentionally want to leave these 
things to the editors community. If it is, then this is fine. It is even 
hinted in the Technical proposal. But it should be written more explicitly, so 
that the communities will actually start to work on that. Again, if somebody 
already started it, please point me there. Thank you! [1] 
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikidata/FAQ -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר 
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Re: [Wikidata-l] thoughts about a plan for enabling interlanguage linking

2012-08-12 Thread Amir E. Aharoni 
2012/8/13 Snaevar snaevar-w...@gmx.com:
  For example:
  * The interwiki bots' will definitely have to be modified for the
  Wikidata age. Did anybody start a conversation with the operators of
  these bots?

 MerlIwBot is the only bot that is compatible with Wikidata.

Is there any reason not to make the others compatible, too? IIRC, they
all use the same upstream pywikipedia code. Or am I naïve?

 Lydia has started a conversation with the operators of the bots that have
 volunteered to transit interwiki links to Wikidata.

Is it public?

  * How will bots identify pages that use Wikidata?

 Is this http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:MerlIwBot/WikiData what you are
 looking for?

Well, probably. Probing Wikidata and seeing whether the page appears
there sounds reasonable. If everybody uses it, of course. What happens
if a bot doesn't behave well and does add a plain old interlanguage
link to a page that is already connected to Wikidata? Which link will
be shown to the reader - the old, the new, or both? And what to do
with the bot account - block it to make the operator notice that he
should upgrade?

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Amir

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