Re: [Wikidata-l] Question about wikipedia categories.

2013-05-05 Thread emw
There's a related essay on Wikimedia Commons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Multichill/Next_generation_categories . The Wikidata properties instance ofhttps://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P31(formerly is a) and subclass of https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P279 are

Re: [Wikidata-l] Fwd: Re: [Wikitech-l] Why isn't hotcat an extension?

2013-07-18 Thread emw
The relationship between Wikipedia categories and Wikidata pops up here and there in discussions -- a recent one was https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2013/06#Proposal_for_phase_4:_unify_and_centralize_categories . I think Wikidata

Re: [Wikidata-l] Application: sexing people by name/research gender bias

2013-10-15 Thread emw
Max's comment is very related to Wikidata. The sex property [1] is a model system to explore important questions for the project at large. For example, how rigorous do we want to be with automatic classification? Let's say a property can have one of three values: A, B or C. Roughly 90% of the

Re: [Wikidata-l] ontology Wikidata API, managing ontology structure and evolutions

2014-01-09 Thread emw
What about monthly/dump-based aggregated property usage statistics? Property usage statistics would be very valuable, Dimitris. It would help inform community decisions about how to steer changes in property usage with less disruption. It would have other significant benefits as well.

Re: [Wikidata-l] difference between Person and Human classes

2014-02-15 Thread emw
what's the usage of the Person class ? 'Person' [1] should generally be avoided. For background, see the discussion about how to classify subjects like Coco Chanel in [2]. That's the basis for the note not for use with P31, instead use Q5 human. Pretty much all the items that link to

Re: [Wikidata-l] Subclass of/instance of

2014-05-05 Thread emw
Hi Markus, You asked who is creating all these [subclass of] statements and how is this done? The class hierarchy in http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/tree.html?q=Q35120rp=279lang=enshows a few relatively large subclass trees for specialist domains, including molecular biology and

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata query feature: status and plans

2014-06-11 Thread emw
In case anyone is a bit lost, Tom is proposing an approach to classification we've been calling explicit metamodeling. Simply put, let's say you have a class hierarchy: A subclass of B B subclass of C C subclass of D The proposal, as I understand it, is to add instance of claims for almost all

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata RDF exports

2014-06-13 Thread emw
Markus, Thank you very much for this. Translating Wikidata into the language of the Semantic Web is important. Being able to explore the Wikidata taxonomy [1] by doing SPARQL queries in Protege [2] (even primitive queries) is really neat, e.g. SELECT ?subject WHERE { ?subject

Re: [Wikidata-l] Wikidata RDF exports

2014-06-14 Thread emw
05:52, emw wrote: Markus, Thank you very much for this. Translating Wikidata into the language of the Semantic Web is important. Being able to explore the Wikidata taxonomy [1] by doing SPARQL queries in Protege [2] (even primitive queries) is really neat, e.g. SELECT ?subject WHERE

Re: [Wikidata-l] Making a Wikipedia article link to two wikidata items

2014-09-09 Thread Emw
For articles that are really about multiple different things that cannot be reconciled in a single natural concept: * State intance of:Wikipedia article with multiple topics (we already have several other classes of Wikipedia articles). * Use some property, say has topic, to link to items

[Wikidata-l] Why? Modeling causes on Wikidata

2014-09-19 Thread Emw
Hi all, Talk about causes is ubiquitous in everyday life and many other domains of knowledge. Until recently, we've had a few properties to make statements about cause in certain narrow areas, but lacked a way to structure data about causes across a broad range of subjects. For example, you

Re: [Wikidata-l] all human genes are now wikidata items

2014-10-07 Thread Emw
Andra, Chinmay, Ben, Andrew, Kudos! This is a significant milestone, and showcases Wikidata's potential for structuring large sets of biological data. Thanks for your excellent work! Cheers, Eric https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Emw On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Benjamin Good

Re: [Wikidata-l] Item both subclass and instance?

2014-10-07 Thread Emw
I have removed the statement *instance of* chemical compound from ethanol (Q153) [1]. A few proposals have been made in this thread about how -- or whether -- to use *instance of* (i.e. rdf:type, P31) to classify 'ethanol' and other chemical compounds, but there seems to be consensus that

[Wikidata-l] NYC Wikidata workshop and hackathon this Sunday!

2014-12-11 Thread Emw
Hi all, Wikimedia New York City will be hosting a Wikidata hackathon and beginners workshop this coming Sunday. This will be a good event to meet Wikimedians involved with cultural institutions, structure a bunch of data, and help new users. If you're in the area, come! When: Sunday, December

[Wikidata-l] How to declare a property is transitive, etc.

2014-12-18 Thread Emw
Hi all, Could those knowledgeable about OWL or intending to use Wikidata's RDF / OWL exports please weigh in at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Property_metadata#How_should_we_declare_that_a_property_is_transitive ? [1] Being able to declare certain properties of

Re: [Wikidata-l] subclass-of vs. instance-of

2014-12-31 Thread Emw
Automobile (Q1420) had the claims [1]: *subclass of* motor road vehicle *instance of* motor road vehicle That was incorrect. An instance of motor road vehicle is something like the Peekskill Meteorite Car (Q7756463) [2]. It is generally incorrect when an item has *instance of* and

Re: [Wikidata-l] Disambiguating property [was: Freebase like API with an OUTPUT feature}

2015-01-10 Thread Emw
Since it appears that the creation of *subproperty of* went unnoticed by many, I'd like to describe an important aspect of its proper use, and how that relates to classification. Please note that *instance of* (P31) and *subclass of* (P279) are not valid values for *subproperty of* (P1647)

Re: [Wikidata-l] Disambiguating property [was: Freebase like API with an OUTPUT feature}

2015-01-13 Thread Emw
Hi James, My mistake, I should have linked to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Property_talk:P1647, which includes the following in the 'Examples' section of the documentation template: Note: it is not valid to declare subproperties of instance of (P31) (rdf:type), subclass of (P279)

Re: [Wikidata-l] Kian: The first neural network to serve Wikidata

2015-03-07 Thread Emw
Amir, What is the false positive rate of your algorithm when dealing with fictitious humans and (non-fictitious) non-human organisms? That is, how often does your program classify such non-humans as humans? Regarding the latter, note that items about individual dogs, elephants, chimpanzees and

Re: [Wikidata-l] External identifiers vs. Wikidata-internal links data

2015-04-03 Thread Emw
Yes. I could see a simple Statements vs. External identifiers distinction being useful that's also reflected in the data model so it's easier to treat these property groups in a distinct manner. I support grouping statements about external identifiers together and distinguishing them from

Re: [Wikidata-l] OWL based ontologies as basis for Wikidata item interactions and property proposal

2015-04-04 Thread Emw
Sebastian, Benjamin, Elvira, Andra, Andrew, Kudos on your progress with an OWL-centric approach to knowledge representation. The community has been incorporating OWL concepts into property definitions and ontology development on-wiki for some time, but yours is the first Wikidata group I'm aware