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The only problem of the page is the reference of CMS-collaboration as I am retired since a long time. My reference is M.C. Lemaire.1 in INSPIRE HEP > Le 1 août 2023 à 10:02, Marie-Claude Lemaire a écrit : > > OK. Thank you. > > Marie-Claude Lemaire > >> Le 31 juil. 2023 à 21:49, Platonides >

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OK. Thank you. Marie-Claude Lemaire > Le 31 juil. 2023 à 21:49, Platonides a écrit : > > Yes. It now shows the correct title. Google updated it by itself. > > Regards > > > On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 at 16:19, Dan Brickley > wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 at 16:40,

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Yes. It now shows the correct title. Google updated it by itself. Regards On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 at 16:19, Dan Brickley wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 at 16:40, Marie-Claude Lemaire > wrote: > >> I do not know how to get the complete url as required by google to >> suppress it. Their advice is

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On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 at 16:40, Marie-Claude Lemaire wrote: > I do not know how to get the complete url as required by google to > suppress it. Their advice is to contact the webmaster of the site. > If you mean the complete URL of the Wikidata entry for Marie-Claude Lemiaire, the URL is:

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Il giorno lun 31 lug 2023 alle ore 17:30 Thomas Douillard ha scritto: > There might be a misunderstanding here. The "admin" in question are not the > administrators in the wiki / mediawiki sense, those elected by the > contributor’s community, but the admin at the system level. > > Those who

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I do not know how to get the complete url as required by google to suppress it. Their advice is to contact the webmaster of the site. Marie-Claude Lemiaire > Le 31 juil. 2023 à 17:29, Thomas Douillard a > écrit : > > There might be a misunderstanding here. The "admin" in question are not the

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There might be a misunderstanding here. The "admin" in question are not the administrators in the wiki / mediawiki sense, those elected by the contributor’s community, but the admin at the system level. Those who administrates the website and the machine, the WMF staff, might perform the

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Il giorno lun 31 lug 2023 alle ore 16:38 Marie-Claude Lemaire ha scritto: > . Je ne sais pas retrouver url complete. Pouvez-vous me la fournir? C'est https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/9673730?hl=fr L. ___ Wikidata mailing list --

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. Je ne sais pas retrouver url complete. Pouvez-vous me la fournir? > Le 31 juil. 2023 à 16:24, Luca Martinelli [Sannita] > a écrit : > > Il giorno lun 31 lug 2023 alle ore 16:15 Marie-Claude Lemaire > ha scritto: >> a wikidata admin has access to the webmaster, when can I hope it will be

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Il giorno lun 31 lug 2023 alle ore 16:15 Marie-Claude Lemaire ha scritto: > a wikidata admin has access to the webmaster, when can I hope it will be done No. They don't. They don't have access to that kind of function. It was wrong information that was given to you. If you want Google to

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a wikidata admin has access to the webmaster, when can I hope it will be done MariClaude Lemaire > Le 30 juil. 2023 à 21:28, Simon Gelfand a écrit : > > That is not correct. If a wikidata admin has access to the webmaster tools of > wikidata.org they can request a

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thanks for you suggestion > Le 30 juil. 2023 à 21:28, Simon Gelfand a écrit : > > That is not correct. If a wikidata admin has access to the webmaster tools of > wikidata.org they can request a re-crawl or remove the > url. > >

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It seem to need that the WMF or WMDE follow some protocol with Google to authenticate them to Google : https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/9008080?hl=en#choose_method Not sure this will be very fast in the middle of the summer if they wish to do this, if they have not done it yet. Le

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That is not correct. If a wikidata admin has access to the webmaster tools of wikidata.org they can request a re-crawl or remove the url. https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/7041154?hl=en On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 at 22:12 Luca Martinelli [Sannita] < martinellil...@gmail.com> wrote: > Il

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Wikidata editors don't have access to that. On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 at 19:04, Simon Gelfand wrote: > Actually with webmaster tools it can be done by Wikidata - question is who > has access to the webmaster tools of wikidata.org > > On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 9:52 PM Platonides wrote: > >> Wikidata

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Il giorno dom 30 lug 2023 alle ore 21:04 Simon Gelfand ha scritto: > Actually with webmaster tools it can be done by Wikidata - question is who > has access to the webmaster tools of wikidata.org No, Simon, it cannot be done the way you're suggesting. Please, don't share wrong info, we cannot

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Actually with webmaster tools it can be done by Wikidata - question is who has access to the webmaster tools of wikidata.org On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 9:52 PM Platonides wrote: > Wikidata people know how to remove from Wikidata. And "Marie-Claude > Mallet-Lemaire" is no more in Wikidata. > But to

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Wikidata people know how to remove from Wikidata. And "Marie-Claude Mallet-Lemaire" is no more in Wikidata. But to delete from Google, you need Google people, not Wikidata people. That's what we have been trying to explain. Wikidata people may be easier to reach than Google people, but that

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I do not know how to delete Marie-Claude Mallet-Lemaire from google and do not understand alla the mails about it as I never use google except to watch at my references. I think wikidata people should know how to delete a reference. Friends told me that are ways of delete quickly. SO please ask

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No I am not confortable with a page Marie-Claude Lemaire in wikidata. Delete it completly. Thank you; Marie-Claude Lemaire > Le 30 juil. 2023 à 00:00, Jan Macura a écrit : > > Dear Dr. Lemaire, dear wikidatans, > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 at 17:56, Marie-Claude Lemaire

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On Sat, 29 Jul 2023, 22:36 Hostage, John, wrote: >> That is clearly not so. See, for example: >> http://katalog.nukat.edu.pl/lib/item?id=chamo:3080157=nukat# > As a library cataloger, I can tell you that the link to the Polish catalog doesn't demonstrate what you think it does. The name after

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Dear Dr. Lemaire, dear wikidatans, On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 at 17:56, Marie-Claude Lemaire wrote: > I definitevely wishes that the wikidata page Marie-Claude Mallet-Lemaire > disappears from Google Chrome whatever in in it. > Perhaps this is the source of mutual misunderstanding. There is no page

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On 7/29/23 23:47, Platonides wrote: I see a risk of searches for that name leading to this very thread. The Streisand effect (Q22732) is already out of it's bottle. regards, GG ___ Wikidata mailing list -- wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org Public

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Another resource that may help you to contact Google would be the form to request from Google the removal of personally identifiable information or doxxing content. see https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/9673730?hl=fr and the button "Lancer la demande de suppresion". Regards On Sat, 29

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That needs to be requested from Google. As you can see Google is showing a result on Wikidata titled "M-C M-L", but the page itself is not named that way, but "M-C L". Making an analogy, this is not that a book has the author name misspelled, but that *it is misspelled in the library catalog*, and

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ably won't change until it is reindexed. John Hostage From: Andy Mabbett Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2023 05:56 To: Discussion list for the Wikidata project Subject: [Wikidata] Re: web reference On Sat, 29 Jul 2023, 02:48 Denny Vrandečić, mailto:vrande...@gmail.c

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On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 at 09:36, Markus Bärlocher wrote: > I understand the very urgent desire that after a name change it is also > tracked on the web. And I understand that if after 18 years of struggle > this is undone again, the suffering is great. A person's name is one of > the most

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I definitevely wishes that the wikidata page Marie-Claude Mallet-Lemaire disappears from Google Chrome whatever in in it. My references are in INSPIRE-HEP and available for every physicist and enough for the WEB. Please stop this fight and delete it quickly. I suffer of the situation

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On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 at 10:56, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > > On Sat, 29 Jul 2023, 02:48 Denny Vrandečić, wrote: > > The problem is not, given my reading, that she wants everything deleted. > > ...and that is exactly what she asked for, in response to my question. That's wrong; I was misrembering

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On Sat, 29 Jul 2023, 02:48 Denny Vrandečić, wrote: > After reading both threads, my understanding is that Dr Lemaire does not want to have the second last name attached to her identity. I explicitly asked if that was the case, for Wikidata... > The problem is not, given my reading, that she

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It was my understanding that we removed the second unwanted name from Wikidata, if this wasn't the case, then we didn't do all that was needed on our end, and I apologise for thinking we did. Unfortunately the part about Google stays the same, we can't do anything about it, unless wait for them

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I understand the very urgent desire that after a name change it is also tracked on the web. And I understand that if after 18 years of struggle this is undone again, the suffering is great. A person's name is one of the most important identity-forming characteristics. And if something goes

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After reading both threads, my understanding is that Dr Lemaire does not want to have the second last name attached to her identity. The problem is not, given my reading, that she wants everything deleted. It is fine if she does. But she certainly does not want the other last name in any

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This mailing list is public, so I suggest everybody to do not forget that public mailing lists shouldn't be used to deal with sensitive matters. Vito Il giorno ven 28 lug 2023 alle ore 22:09 Marie-Claude Lemaire < mclemai...@free.fr> ha scritto: > No I do not want it to be restored. I fight all

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No I do not want it to be restored. I fight all my carrier to be only Marie-Claude Lemaire. Now I am retired since 18 years at it very surprising that after 18 years of retirement Marie-Claude Mallet-Lemaire reappears. I am followed by a Physician for my psychological problems. I do not want to

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If this lady wants her name updated on Google, she would be much better off if the page is kept, with her preferred name. That way Google will eventually note the page has been updated, and update their records. If the page is deleted, Google will never get that trigger, and the name she doesn't

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Thank you. > Le 28 juil. 2023 à 20:27, Yaroslav Blanter a écrit : > > Good, I deleted the page as lacking notability. I wish you happy life without > stress. > > Best > Yaroslav > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 8:25 PM Marie-Claude Lemaire > wrote: > I want to live

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This is harassment. I am not comfortable with receiving such mails from the mailing list. Best Yaroslav On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 9:07 PM Andy Mabbett wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 at 19:27, Yaroslav Blanter wrote: > > > > I deleted the page as lacking notability. > > You acted out of process,

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On Fri, 28 Jul 2023 at 19:27, Yaroslav Blanter wrote: > > I deleted the page as lacking notability. You acted out of process, contrary to policy and in excess of your authority. You have also stated that you will not reverse your actions, even if community consensus is against them. For shame.

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Hi James, all Maybe the author is convinced that all star eyed with the wrong labeling of her name in the Wikidata URI. Is it possible to know if before the creation of the page in Wikidata, there were know confusion in the Google results? If yes, then maybe that’s why she wants to delete the

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If this lady wants her name updated on Google, she would be much better off if the page is kept, with her preferred name. That way Google will eventually note the page has been updated, and update their records. If the page is deleted, Google will never get that trigger, and the name she

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Good, I deleted the page as lacking notability. I wish you happy life without stress. Best Yaroslav On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 8:25 PM Marie-Claude Lemaire wrote: > I want to live normally without stress. Deleting the page will be good for > my mind for the future. As I already said it makes me

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I want to live normally without stress. Deleting the page will be good for my mind for the future. As I already said it makes me sick. Best Marie-Claude > Le 28 juil. 2023 à 20:09, Yaroslav Blanter a écrit : > > Do you actually realize that even if the page is deleted the information is >

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Do you actually realize that even if the page is deleted the information is still stored in Google until the Google robot gets to it? Deleting the page will not help your cause even for a second. Best Yaroslav On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 7:43 PM Marie-Claude Lemaire wrote: > This fight make me

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This fight make me sick! Please delete the wikidata page > Le 28 juil. 2023 à 19:28, Thomas Douillard a > écrit : > > Google is a huge company with automated process. The robot that takes the > information up to date will soon reach your page and update, but as simple > users just as you and

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Google is a huge company with automated process. The robot that takes the information up to date will soon reach your page and update, but as simple users just as you and not insiders there is not much possibility to reach them and order them to speed things up. As they index the whole web it can

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I do not know how to ask google to suppress the information Marie-Cladue Mallet-Lemaire https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q89127676 if you know how to do it. > Le 28 juil. 2023 à 18:36, Thomas Douillard a > écrit : > > Wikidata contributors were

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Wikidata contributors were probably not aware of those wishes. It’s an open project anyone can contribute to, and do their best. Those data can be used because someone insert some fact in Wikidata with one of the articles you wrote as a reference. Wikidata internally use your datas on this page

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No I do not understand that people publish informations against my wishes > Le 28 juil. 2023 à 17:59, Luca Martinelli [Sannita] > a écrit : > > Il giorno ven 28 lug 2023 alle ore 17:52 Marie-Claude Lemaire > ha scritto: >> >> I am Marie-Claude Lemaire particle physicist( french) and known in

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Il giorno ven 28 lug 2023 alle ore 17:52 Marie-Claude Lemaire ha scritto: > > I am Marie-Claude Lemaire particle physicist( french) and known in particle > physics as Marie-Claude Lemaire https://inspirehep.net/authors/1000606. I do > not want that Marie-Claude Mallet-Lemaire appears in google

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I am Marie-Claude Lemaire particle physicist( french) and known in particle physics as Marie-Claude Lemaire https://inspirehep.net/authors/1000606. I do not want that Marie-Claude Mallet-Lemaire appears in google chrome. My french identity card is Marie-Claude Lemaire , my CEA card is

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A little off topic but I’m curious. I assumed that the datas were shown as the structured data knowledge graph but it appears they are not and the page is shown as first result by Google. I don’t think I have ever seen a Wikidata first result from a Google request ! I don’t even recall that a

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I have checked and it looks like the wikidata item has now been updated to reflect the name "Marie-Claude Lemaire". However, it still appears in Google because Google has not re-indexed the page yet. For this you just have to wait, as it's unknown how long it will take and Google does not

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i still appear in Google Chrome as Marie-Claude MALLET-LEMAIRE as particle researcher with now a crazy page. I use rarely this identity only in nuclear physics. I want to DISAPPEAR from wikidata . It is Clear. Marie-Claude Lemaire > Le 27 juil. 2023 à 20:34, Marie-Claude Lemaire a écrit : >

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I just want that I do not appear Mallet-Lemaire particle physics researcher in when you do in google :mc lemaire+ particle particle physics and Marie-Claude Lemaire + particle physics . The Joliot-Curie prize I got was in nuclear physics. I never use the identity Mallet-Lemiare in particle

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On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 at 19:04, Marie-Claude Lemaire wrote: > > As a woman I have the right that the identity Marie-Claude Mallet-Lemaire > does not appear in the wikidata. Is the issue that you prefer to be known as "Marie-Claude Lemaire"? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing