[WikiEN-l] Nice Observer column

2009-04-05 Thread David Gerard
Creating the phrase cultural agoraphobia. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/apr/05/digital-media-referenceandlanguages - d. ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-05 Thread David Gerard
2009/4/5 Oskar Sigvardsson oskarsigvards...@gmail.com: I think it's very clear that wikipedia has developed a very successful model, not least because many other wikis seem to almost automatically adopt our style and policies. In short: Wikipedia Works. NPOV is our key innovation. Much more

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-05 Thread Oskar Sigvardsson
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:36 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: NPOV is our key innovation. Much more radical than letting anyone edit the website. Two things which, incidentally, go hand in hand. NPOV would be virtually impossible to achieve without open and public debate about every

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-05 Thread Fred Bauder
2009/4/5 Oskar Sigvardsson oskarsigvards...@gmail.com: I think it's very clear that wikipedia has developed a very successful model, not least because many other wikis seem to almost automatically adopt our style and policies. In short: Wikipedia Works. NPOV is our key innovation. Much

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-05 Thread Fred Bauder
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:36 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: NPOV is our key innovation. Much more radical than letting anyone edit the website. Two things which, incidentally, go hand in hand. NPOV would be virtually impossible to achieve without open and public debate about every

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-05 Thread Fred Bauder
Yes, but failures to present a complete spectrum of points of view can be balanced by including a NPOV article imported from Wikipedia. Or, indeed, by linking to the editorial pages of major newspapers from an NPOV article *on* Wikipedia... -- That would be true if it were not for the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-05 Thread Sam Korn
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: Yes, but failures to present a complete spectrum of points of view can be balanced by including a NPOV article imported from Wikipedia. Or, indeed, by linking to the editorial pages of major newspapers from an NPOV

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-05 Thread David Gerard
2009/4/5 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net: The obvious alternative is to allow point of view editing but structure the wiki to include articles from diverse points of view, not an innovation, editorial pages of major newspapers are typically structured in that way. I'd say that's not

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-05 Thread Ray Saintonge
Sam Korn wrote: On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 12:36 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/5 Oskar Sigvardsson oskarsigvards...@gmail.com I think it's very clear that wikipedia has developed a very successful model, not least because many other wikis seem to almost automatically adopt

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-05 Thread Sam Korn
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: Sam Korn wrote: On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 12:36 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/5 Oskar Sigvardsson oskarsigvards...@gmail.com I think it's very clear that wikipedia has developed a very successful model,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Jimbo interview

2009-04-05 Thread Daniel R. Tobias
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 08:13:23 -0600 (MDT), Fred Bauder wrote: Wikipedia works like Wall Street works, Not exactly the most auspicious example to use these days... -- == Dan == Dan's Mail Format Site: http://mailformat.dan.info/ Dan's Web Tips: http://webtips.dan.info/ Dan's Domain Site:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Saying no to new unreferenced BLPs

2009-04-05 Thread David Goodman
I use the somewhat shorter message, Do not create articles without references. If you have the information to write the article, you got it from somewhere. Say where . Articles without references are likely to get deleted. I advise you to do this the moment you create the article, to avoid