I use the somewhat shorter  message,

Do not create articles  without references. If you have the
information to write the article, you got it from somewhere. Say where
. Articles without references are likely to get deleted. I advise you
to do this the moment you create the article, to avoid problems.



David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG



On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 5:52 PM, phoebe ayers <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 2:39 PM, doc <[email protected]> wrote:
>> phoebe ayers wrote:
>>> I am all in favor of seeing if we can change people's behavior in
>>> subtle ways; it will take many solutions all working together to fix
>>> blp's.
>>>
>>> -- phoebe
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>>
>> A very simple and non-controversial start might be to ask New Page
>> patrolers, when they see a new unsourced BLP (or indeed any unsourced
>> article) to put a polite message on the creator's talk page saying
>>
>> "Thanks for your article [XYZ]. Wikipedia asks that all material be
>> verifiable from reliable sources, it is important that readers and other
>> users can check what's been writen. You don't seem to have told us the
>> source you used for this article. Please can you edit the article to
>> indicate what the source is? (Click here for help if you don't know
>> how.) Unsourced material about living people may be removed if challenged."
>>
>> That doesn't bite or threaten any newbies, although if established
>> editors keep getting these on their talk pages, threats might be warranted.
>
> Yes, definitely -- I try to do this whenever I dabble in new page
> patrolling, and it depresses me to no end that everyone doesn't do
> this. It's common politeness. The majority of new articles aren't
> suitable for wp, but they aren't spam or pure vandalism either -- and
> we need to do a much better job of interacting with these potential
> good contributors.
>
> For a template, I think you're looking for something like
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Welcomeunsourced, only less
> wordy and not only for reverted edits.
>
> p.s. per my previous msg, I guess I'm showing my age -- I think I was
> thinking of the new page template proposal from 2005:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:New_article_template
>
> -- phoebe
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