Re: [WikiEN-l] Well-sourced nonsense vs. unsourced competence

2009-09-03 Thread stevertigo
Bod Notbod wrote: > People with a view on this may like to contribute to: > > http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Move_references_out_of_the_code Good link! Note I've proposed a move on the talk page. -Stevertigo ___ WikiEN-l mailing list Wiki

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread wjhonson
While poking over my Google Analytics I discovered this odd thing I think they call it a "Bounce" rate ? It's supposed to measure how often people come to your *one page* and then bounce away without sticking to your site to read others related pages. That sounds like what you're talking about

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread Carcharoth
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:06 AM, David Gerard wrote: > Y'know, we have pretty much no facillities *just for the reader*. I thought they had things called articles they could read? :-) Seriously, some of the better portals are hard for readers to find. And I'm not sure how far some readers go b

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread Emily Monroe
> I like having the "Make a Comment" button at the bottom of each > article, as this would mimic what readers are used to seeing at > other sites. Maybe the "Make a Comment" button can link to a page that has check boxes that have both positive (Fun to read, easy to understand, accurate) a

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/3 Al Tally : > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 7:19 PM, wrote: >> In a message dated 9/3/2009 7:24:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >> majorly.w...@googlemail.com writes: >> > Or worse, "THIS PERSON IS A DIRTY PEDO1!!" (or something as bad). >> > Could >> > be problematic for BLPs.>> >> We already

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread Al Tally
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 7:19 PM, wrote: > In a message dated 9/3/2009 7:24:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > majorly.w...@googlemail.com writes: > > > > Or worse, "THIS PERSON IS A DIRTY PEDO1!!" (or something as bad). > > Could > > be problematic for BLPs.>> > > -- > > We alr

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/3 Emily Monroe : >> I don't see this as a way to improve the article, only a way to >> allow casual readers to make comments. > THANK YOU for the clarification! It is, of course, *also* a good way to get input from people frightened by the idea of editing for whatever reason. I think th

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread Emily Monroe
> I don't see this as a way to improve the article, only a way to > allow casual readers to make comments. THANK YOU for the clarification! Emily On Sep 3, 2009, at 5:04 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: > No that was someone's idea, but not mine. > I like having the "Make a Comment" button at the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread wjhonson
No that was someone's idea, but not mine. I like having the "Make a Comment" button at the bottom of each article, as this would mimic what readers are used to seeing at other sites. I don't that this would create a seperate section on the Talk page however, as I think this would clutter the Tal

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Wired: Wikipedia to Color Code Untrustworthy...

2009-09-03 Thread Bod Notbod
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Bod Notbod wrote: > I found a Wikimania presentation earlier that showed colour coding of > text according to trustworthiness and also rated contributors on a > similar scale. I can't seem to find it again now though. D'oh! My usually gorgeous Gmail broke this thr

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Wikitech-l] Fwd: Wired: Wikipedia to Color Code Untrustworthy...

2009-09-03 Thread Bod Notbod
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:09 PM, wrote: > In a message dated 8/31/2009 11:47:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, > ft2.w...@gmail.com writes: > > >>    - WikiTrust might be described as "a way to see how long an edit >> endured >>    and how much trust it seems to have"; in most users' hands it'll be >>

Re: [WikiEN-l] Well-sourced nonsense vs. unsourced competence

2009-09-03 Thread Bod Notbod
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:19 AM, FT2 wrote: > Actually is there a reason why refs couldn't have a separate section? People with a view on this may like to contribute to: http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Move_references_out_of_the_code ___

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread Emily Monroe
> I suppose there would need to be a guideline started to decide what > sorts of things are OK for comments. I thought we were talking about how to make the talk page more accessible... Emily On Sep 3, 2009, at 1:19 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/3/2009 7:21:35 AM Pacific

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 9/3/2009 7:24:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, majorly.w...@googlemail.com writes: > Or worse, "THIS PERSON IS A DIRTY PEDO1!!" (or something as bad). > Could > be problematic for BLPs.>> -- We already get that. So this wouldn't change that issue.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 9/3/2009 7:21:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bluecalioc...@me.com writes: > Yeah, but see, the thing is, you don't "own" the blog. The person > writing it does (well, technically, the blog hosting service does). > They have the right to not have a comment show up. We could u

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread Al Tally
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Emily Monroe wrote: > > Simple suggestion: A big green button at the bottom of every page > > marked "Comment on this page" which creates a new section on the > > discussion page. > > Good idea, but we would get dozens of "OMG I LUV THIS PERSUN!11!!!". > > Emil

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread Emily Monroe
> As a casual reader on OPB (other people's blogs) I get annoyed if my > comment gets wiped or never appears. Yeah, but see, the thing is, you don't "own" the blog. The person writing it does (well, technically, the blog hosting service does). They have the right to not have a comment show u

Re: [WikiEN-l] Googley comments

2009-09-03 Thread Emily Monroe
> Simple suggestion: A big green button at the bottom of every page > marked "Comment on this page" which creates a new section on the > discussion page. Good idea, but we would get dozens of "OMG I LUV THIS PERSUN!11!!!". Emily On Sep 2, 2009, at 8:58 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: > On Thu,