Re: [WikiEN-l] Cory Doctorow: Wikipedia is facts-about-facts

2009-11-26 Thread Charles Matthews
David Gerard wrote: http://www.make-digital.com/make/vol20/?pg=16 Argument intelligent enough, use of notable is off-base though since for us notability is an attribute of topics. Charles ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [WikiEN-l] Cory Doctorow: Wikipedia is facts-about-facts

2009-11-26 Thread George Herbert
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: David Gerard wrote: http://www.make-digital.com/make/vol20/?pg=16 Argument intelligent enough, use of notable is off-base though since for us notability is an attribute of topics. He's describing WP for

[WikiEN-l] Something on the nature of working for free

2009-11-26 Thread George Herbert
It's important to keep in mind that volunteers - anyone you're not compensating for the work - do what they want, and won't do that they don't want to. A lot of volunteer organizations implode when people at the core forget that. An excellent example of someone reaching their tolerance level on

Re: [WikiEN-l] BBC blog on WSJ study

2009-11-26 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 5:22 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/11/25 Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com: Up to three BBC TV interviews will be occurring today. They are scheduled on the BBC News Channel for 5.50 pm, 7.50 pm (that should be me), and we think

Re: [WikiEN-l] Cory Doctorow: Wikipedia is facts-about-facts

2009-11-26 Thread Carcharoth
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 9:57 AM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: David Gerard wrote: http://www.make-digital.com/make/vol20/?pg=16 Argument intelligent enough, use of notable is off-base

Re: [WikiEN-l] Cory Doctorow: Wikipedia is facts-about-facts

2009-11-26 Thread George Herbert
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 5:11 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 9:57 AM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: David Gerard wrote:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Something on the nature of working for free

2009-11-26 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 9:02 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: It's important to keep in mind that volunteers - anyone you're not compensating for the work - do what they want, and won't do that they don't want to.  A lot of volunteer organizations implode when people at the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Something on the nature of working for free

2009-11-26 Thread Keegan Paul
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 9:02 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: It's important to keep in mind that volunteers - anyone you're not compensating for the work - do what they want, and won't do that they don't want to. A lot of volunteer organizations implode when people

Re: [WikiEN-l] Something on the nature of working for free

2009-11-26 Thread Bod Notbod
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Keegan Paul kgnp...@gmail.com wrote: Now, the interesting part of the voluntary nature of Wikipedia is that there does illogically persist an ideology of status, and moving up the ladder just like in a professional world.  In a paid environment, the motivation