Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia committee member

2010-08-29 Thread David Gerard
On 29 August 2010 02:14, Victor Vasiliev vasi...@gmail.com wrote: Do you now that according to The Independent we have approved Wikipedia committee members? The Independent managed to call an IP user so. [1] May anyone contact and correct them?

[WikiEN-l] Kafkaesque story on the English Wikipedia

2010-08-29 Thread Seventy Nine
Hello, I am sending this letter to this mailing list after several failed attempts to address administrators in the Arbitration Committee and the Unblock mailing list. Apparently this is a Kafkaesque story which no one wishes to handle. I have recently started to edit on the English Wikipedia. I

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia committee member

2010-08-29 Thread Michael Peel
On 29 Aug 2010, at 09:51, David Gerard wrote: On 29 August 2010 02:14, Victor Vasiliev vasi...@gmail.com wrote: Do you now that according to The Independent we have approved Wikipedia committee members? The Independent managed to call an IP user so. [1] May anyone contact and correct them?

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia committee member

2010-08-29 Thread David Gerard
On 29 August 2010 12:09, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: I'm really puzzled how they managed to get the description of the Wikimedia community so wrong, considering that talked to them on the phone about this on Friday afternoon and thought that I'd explained this to them. A bit of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Webypedia - another doomed alternative to Wikipedia

2010-08-29 Thread Carl (CBM)
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:56 AM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: but as they evidently haven't sussed that Wikipedia is in truth the encyclopaedia largely written by anonymous IP editors, Perhaps that is true in some areas, but the articles I edit on wikipedia (on

Re: [WikiEN-l] Webypedia - another doomed alternative to Wikipedia

2010-08-29 Thread David Gerard
On 29 August 2010 13:57, Carl (CBM) cbm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:56 AM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: but as they evidently haven't sussed that Wikipedia is in truth the encyclopaedia largely written by anonymous IP editors, Perhaps that is

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia committee member

2010-08-29 Thread Michael Peel
On 29 Aug 2010, at 13:04, David Gerard wrote: On 29 August 2010 12:09, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: I'm really puzzled how they managed to get the description of the Wikimedia community so wrong, considering that talked to them on the phone about this on Friday afternoon and

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia committee member

2010-08-29 Thread Carcharoth
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:04 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 August 2010 12:09, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: I'm really puzzled how they managed to get the description of the Wikimedia community so wrong, considering that talked to them on the phone about this on

Re: [WikiEN-l] Webypedia - another doomed alternative to Wikipedia

2010-08-29 Thread Carl (CBM)
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:51 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Aaron Swartz found that most of the text is written by IPs, with the regulars then formatting the heck out of it. Like I was saying, that does not match my experience with mathematics articles. I very rarely see significant

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia committee member

2010-08-29 Thread David Gerard
On 29 August 2010 17:16, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: Does no-one want to discuss whether the ending of the Mousetrap play This is not an invitation to revive the whole spoiler debate, but this situation is slightly different in that those involved in putting the play on and

Re: [WikiEN-l] Webypedia - another doomed alternative to Wikipedia

2010-08-29 Thread David Gerard
On 29 August 2010 17:27, Carl (CBM) cbm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:51 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Aaron Swartz found that most of the text is written by IPs, with the regulars then formatting the heck out of it. Like I was saying, that does not match

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia committee member

2010-08-29 Thread Carcharoth
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 5:43 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 August 2010 17:16, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: Does no-one want to discuss whether the ending of the Mousetrap play This is not an invitation to revive the whole spoiler debate, but this situation

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia committee member

2010-08-29 Thread Carcharoth
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:29 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: I ask again: if the case came to you that one side was saying we must do this to the article because someone with a financial interest asked us to and the other was saying we are an encyclopedia and this is an NPOV issue,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia committee member

2010-08-29 Thread David Gerard
On 29 August 2010 18:44, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:29 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: I ask again: if the case came to you that one side was saying we must do this to the article because someone with a financial interest asked us to and

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia committee member

2010-08-29 Thread Carcharoth
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:50 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 August 2010 18:44, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 6:29 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: I ask again: if the case came to you that one side was saying we must do this to

Re: [WikiEN-l] Webypedia - another doomed alternative to Wikipedia

2010-08-29 Thread Ray Saintonge
David Gerard wrote: On 29 August 2010 17:27, Carl (CBM) cbm.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:51 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Aaron Swartz found that most of the text is written by IPs, with the regulars then formatting the heck out of it.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Webypedia - another doomed alternative to Wikipedia

2010-08-29 Thread Ray Saintonge
Ian Woollard wrote: On 27/08/2010, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia needs competitors. Realistically, the space that Wikipedia occupies seems to be a more or less a natural monopoly. What makes any monopoly natural? And Wikipedia doesn't even make money per se,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Webypedia - another doomed alternative to Wikipedia

2010-08-29 Thread David Gerard
On 30 August 2010 01:14, William Beutler williambeut...@gmail.com wrote: I do think alternative wiki projects that seek to fill gaps created by Wikipedia's choice not to include some types of information stand the best chance of success -- going head-to-head with this entrenched incumbent is

Re: [WikiEN-l] Webypedia - another doomed alternative to Wikipedia

2010-08-29 Thread David Gerard
On 30 August 2010 00:58, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: Ian Woollard wrote: On 27/08/2010, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia needs competitors. Realistically, the space that Wikipedia occupies seems to be a more or less a natural monopoly. What makes any monopoly

Re: [WikiEN-l] OED goes print-only

2010-08-29 Thread David Gerard
On 30 August 2010 02:02, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: Print-only? Online-only, surely? You have deciphered my cunning brainfart! Even online, I suspect you would have edition numbers to identify major updates, with more frequent updates occurring between those save

Re: [WikiEN-l] Webypedia - another doomed alternative to Wikipedia

2010-08-29 Thread Ian Woollard
On 30/08/2010, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: What have I missed? Somebody that forked the wiki and removed the no advertising policy might make lots of money. ;-) As in, advertising is allowed *within* articles (for example an article on a business) as well as at the top. The trick is