Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia and libraries

2011-02-09 Thread Ed Summers
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: [Bit off-topic, but has anyone read that book?] I have got it, but haven't finished it yet. Andrew spoke at the recent GLAM-Wiki event last year, which has audio available [1]. There are lots of good talks at that

[WikiEN-l] Wikipedia and robots

2011-02-09 Thread Carcharoth
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12400647 Robots could soon have an equivalent of the internet and Wikipedia. Do you think they will let humans edit their Wikipedia? Carcharoth ___ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia and libraries

2011-02-09 Thread Gwern Branwen
On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Ed Summers e...@pobox.com wrote: Linkypedia kind of turns Wikipedia inside out, and lets content publishers see what articles reference their content. So for example the British Museum can see what Wikipedia articles reference their site [3]. And folks who are

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia and robots

2011-02-09 Thread WereSpielChequers
Just as we have no way of knowing which of our editors are AIs who have passed the Turing test, I doubt if they will be able to tell which of their editors are humans who can pass a reverse Turing test. Incidentally one of my friends who is in that line of work reckoned that there probably isn't

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia and robots

2011-02-09 Thread Fred Bauder
Most humans see the world their own way and there's very little standardization going on. Fred http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12400647 Robots could soon have an equivalent of the internet and Wikipedia. Do you think they will let humans edit their Wikipedia? Carcharoth

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia and robots

2011-02-09 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 3:47 PM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WereSpielChequers/AI_accounts Asking AI candidates at RFA if their operator will switch them off if they pass is considered by some to be incivil or tactless. LOL! :-)

Re: [WikiEN-l] Why I don't contribute to Wikipedia anymore

2011-02-09 Thread Ian Woollard
On 04/02/2011, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: It's a common story in the human species. First, we want to achieve a goal. Second, we discover that we are all different[2] and that we need some rules to organize our work. Third, we make the rules really complicated to fit every corner case.

[WikiEN-l] Maintaining and ensuring technical accuracy of articles?

2011-02-09 Thread WereSpielChequers
Re Ian Woolard's query: As the Wikipedia moves towards some arbitrary definition of notional 'completion', can anyone point to a board or mechanism in the Wikipedia which is specifically for maintaining and ensuring technical accuracy of articles? I'm not sure who if anyone thinks we are

Re: [WikiEN-l] Why I don't contribute to Wikipedia anymore

2011-02-09 Thread Carl (CBM)
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/02/2011, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: It's a common story in the human species. First, we want to achieve a goal. Second, we discover that we are all different[2] and that we need some rules to organize our

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia and robots

2011-02-09 Thread Bob the Wikipedian
While no robot has passed the official Turing test (though many have passed highly simplified versions of it), the idea of a central AI system is an innovative one-- just think, Wikipository-- the information repository that any robot can contribute to-- Intelligent robots are programmed to be

Re: [WikiEN-l] Maintaining and ensuring technical accuracy of articles?

2011-02-09 Thread MuZemike
What I think is happening is that most of the articles (most of the major topics) have been created, and most people, many of them newcomers or laypeople, are not aware that anyone can come in and expand articles that have been started but not finished - coincidentally about 1/3 or so I

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia and libraries

2011-02-09 Thread geni
On 8 February 2011 14:35, Ed Summers e...@pobox.com wrote: Linkypedia kind of turns Wikipedia inside out, and lets content publishers see what articles reference their content. So for example the British Museum can see what Wikipedia articles reference their site [3]. And folks who are

Re: [WikiEN-l] Why I don't contribute to Wikipedia anymore

2011-02-09 Thread Durova
It's a common story in the human species. First, we want to achieve a goal. Second, we discover that we are all different[2] and that we need some rules to organize our work. Third, we make the rules really complicated to fit every corner case. Fourth, we completely forget the goal of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia and robots

2011-02-09 Thread Carcharoth
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Bob the Wikipedian bobthewikiped...@gmail.com wrote: While no robot has passed the official Turing test (though many have passed highly simplified versions of it), the idea of a central AI system is an innovative one-- just think, Wikipository-- the information

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia and robots

2011-02-09 Thread Bob the Wikipedian
On 2/9/2011 5:22 PM, Carcharoth wrote: On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Bob the Wikipedian bobthewikiped...@gmail.com wrote: While no robot has passed the official Turing test (though many have passed highly simplified versions of it), the idea of a central AI system is an innovative one--

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia and robots

2011-02-09 Thread Carcharoth
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Bob the Wikipedian bobthewikiped...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/9/2011 5:22 PM, Carcharoth wrote: On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Bob the Wikipedian bobthewikiped...@gmail.com  wrote: While no robot has passed the official Turing test (though many have passed

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia and robots

2011-02-09 Thread Bob the Wikipedian
On 2/9/2011 6:21 PM, Carcharoth wrote: On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Bob the Wikipedian bobthewikiped...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/9/2011 5:22 PM, Carcharoth wrote: On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Bob the Wikipedian bobthewikiped...@gmail.comwrote: While no robot has passed the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia and robots

2011-02-09 Thread Carcharoth
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Bob the Wikipedian bobthewikiped...@gmail.com wrote: They could probably set up listeners to monitor for activity like that and enforce a 1RR-- where if two bots successively reverted one another, a counseling agent would slip in and request they stop. The