Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-17 Thread Charles Matthews
On 16 May 2012 19:41, Gwern Branwen gwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: And why haven't they taken those who generalise broadly from a single example with them? Are you denying the general decline in editors, even

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-17 Thread WereSpielChequers
Hi, unless I read this wrong you are admitting to 100 random vandalisms of Wikipedia? If so please stop your experiment now and revert any vandalisms not yet spotted. WereSpielChequers On 17 May 2012 02:14, Gwern Branwen gwe...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Ian Woollard

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-17 Thread Ian Woollard
On 17 May 2012 03:58, Gwern Branwen gwe...@gmail.com wrote: But no, you don't need to guess: you edit Wikipedia, you already know what external links usually look like, and how many are bad on average. (From actually doing the deletions, my own appraisal is that 10% were at all questionable,

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-17 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 17 May 2012 12:54, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, unless I read this wrong you are admitting to 100 random vandalisms of Wikipedia? If so please stop your experiment now and revert any vandalisms not yet spotted. Indeed. Then read WP:POINT.

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-17 Thread Carcharoth
On 5/17/12, Gwern Branwen gwe...@gmail.com wrote: Incidentally, I have been finishing an experiment involving the removal of 100 random external links by an IP; I haven't analyzed it yet, so I don't know the outcome, but this gives us an opportunity! I carried out another experiment (though I

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-17 Thread Durova
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote: About six months ago now, I stumbled on an article that wasn't in great shape, added some text over a series of edits, and increased the number of links in the 'external links' section from 5 to 22. Now, admittedly

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-17 Thread Charles Matthews
On 17 May 2012 17:32, Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com wrote: That conclusion would be far more convincing if you weren't who you are. That's [[ad hominem]] against Carcharoth, and you really need either to withdraw it, or back it up. The former option is much preferable. Charles

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-17 Thread James Farrar
It's also not the first post in this thread it could have been said about... On May 17, 2012 5:38 PM, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 17 May 2012 17:32, Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com wrote: That conclusion would be far more convincing if you weren't who you are.

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-17 Thread Durova
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 17 May 2012 17:32, Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com wrote: That conclusion would be far more convincing if you weren't who you are. That's [[ad hominem]] against Carcharoth, and you really need

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-17 Thread Charles Matthews
On 17 May 2012 20:37, Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 17 May 2012 17:32, Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com wrote: That conclusion would be far more convincing if you weren't who you are.

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-17 Thread Durova
Thank you for the clarification. Charles He raises an interesting possibility. What would really be a better test of the idea would be to edit unlogged from a wi-fi hotspot and add around 2 dozen external links each to several articles as he describes along with a general improvement and

Re: [WikiEN-l] How the Professor Who Fooled Wikipedia Got Caught by Reddit, _The Atlantic_

2012-05-17 Thread Anthony
On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 May 2012 12:54, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, unless I read this wrong you are admitting to 100 random vandalisms of Wikipedia? If so please stop your experiment now and revert any