Re: [WikiEN-l] fictional categories

2009-11-04 Thread Surreptitiousness
Ray Saintonge wrote: Ian Woollard wrote: On 04/11/2009, Steve Bennett wrote: On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Ian Woollard wrote: Schroedinger's cat very definitely is fictitious; it's not an experiment you can actually do and get an alive/dead cat that you can

Re: [WikiEN-l] fictional categories

2009-11-03 Thread Ian Woollard
Schroedinger's cat very definitely is fictitious; it's not an experiment you can actually do and get an alive/dead cat that you can actually see, you would get either an alive cat, or a dead cat. The Higgs boson is supposed to be a *real* particle; it is not fictitious, it is hypothetical, it's

Re: [WikiEN-l] fictional categories

2009-11-03 Thread David Goodman
Fiction is a very broad term. fictions can be used for rhetorical purposes in serious discourse--fictional examples are a mainstay of philosophical argument, dating back to Plato's cave, if not earlier. For this hypothetical animal, I do not think there will be any difficulty finding a citation

[WikiEN-l] fictional categories

2009-11-03 Thread Surreptitiousness
I freely admit I have an issue with fictional categories. I find them somewhat in the face of what categorisation was intended to do, or at least my thoughts on what it was intended to do, which was to classify as unambiguously and as relevantly as possible. I'm prompted into this

Re: [WikiEN-l] fictional categories

2009-11-03 Thread Surreptitiousness
David Goodman wrote: Fiction is a very broad term. fictions can be used for rhetorical purposes in serious discourse--fictional examples are a mainstay of philosophical argument, dating back to Plato's cave, if not earlier. For this hypothetical animal, I do not think there will be any

Re: [WikiEN-l] fictional categories

2009-11-03 Thread Ryan Delaney
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Surreptitiousness surreptitious.wikiped...@googlemail.com wrote: David Goodman wrote: Fiction is a very broad term. fictions can be used for rhetorical purposes in serious discourse--fictional examples are a mainstay of philosophical argument, dating back

Re: [WikiEN-l] fictional categories

2009-11-03 Thread Steve Bennett
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.com wrote: Schroedinger's cat very definitely is fictitious; it's not an experiment you can actually do and get an alive/dead cat that you can actually see, you would get either an alive cat, or a dead cat. I agree with the

Re: [WikiEN-l] fictional categories

2009-11-03 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Ian Woollard wrote: On 04/11/2009, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.com wrote: Schroedinger's cat very definitely is fictitious; it's not an experiment you can actually do and get an alive/dead cat that you can