[WikiEN-l] Reporting Grawp to Verizon

2009-01-22 Thread Dahsun
I reported Grawp to Verizon earlier this week and got the following response, I'm circulating it here so that others reporting vandals to ISPs can follow their format. But more importantly can anyone tell me how to work out Destination IP address Destination port(s)? Jonathan

Re: [WikiEN-l] Watch out Wikipedia, here comes Britannica 2.0

2009-01-22 Thread Charles Matthews
the wub wrote Also fom the article: He said the encyclopedia had set a benchmark of a 20-minute turnaround to update the site with user-submitted edits to existing articles That'll probably be faster than us once flagged revisions is switched on (compare with the German expeiment, where

Re: [WikiEN-l] Watch out Wikipedia, here comes Britannica 2.0

2009-01-22 Thread Carcharoth
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Charles Matthews charles.r.matth...@ntlworld.com wrote: the wub wrote Also from the article: Re-quoting link to article (more comments below):

Re: [WikiEN-l] Watch out Wikipedia, here comes Britannica 2.0

2009-01-22 Thread David Gerard
2009/1/22 Keith Old keith...@gmail.com: In a move to take on Wikipedia, the *Encyclopedia Britannica* is inviting the hoi polloi to edit, enhance and contribute to its online version. http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/22/1336241 I found this anonymous Slashdot comment

Re: [WikiEN-l] Watch out Wikipedia, here comes Britannica 2.0

2009-01-22 Thread Thomas Dalton
Do we know how many *words* Wikipedia is? Current estimate on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Size_in_volumes is 1,178,620,320 words (1.2 billion), although that's based on a words per article count from October 2006 when the statistics program exploded. How many *articles* Britannica

Re: [WikiEN-l] Watch out Wikipedia, here comes Britannica 2.0

2009-01-22 Thread Gwern Branwen
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[WikiEN-l] VfD against every article in Category.Outlines that is also in namespace 0? (aka: please stop writing another perverted encyclopedia inside wikipedia)

2009-01-22 Thread Mathias Schindler
I recently came across http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Outlines and it took me a while to realize the full extend of this desaster. Some part of en.wp's authors is duplicating Wikipedia, this time without text. For example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic_outline_of_Algeria is a list of

Re: [WikiEN-l] VfD against every article in Category.Outlines that is also in namespace 0? (aka: please stop writing another perverted encyclopedia inside wikipedia)

2009-01-22 Thread Matthew Brown
This apparently was originally [[List of basic topics]] and its children, and the rename to Outlines was done by [[User:The Transhumanist]]. [[List of basic topics]] dates to 2001 and was started by Larry Sanger, so this is not a new thing. -Matt On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Mathias

Re: [WikiEN-l] VfD against every article in Category.Outlines that is also in namespace 0? (aka: please stop writing another perverted encyclopedia inside wikipedia)

2009-01-22 Thread Mathias Schindler
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:32 PM, Matthew Brown mor...@gmail.com wrote: This apparently was originally [[List of basic topics]] and its children, and the rename to Outlines was done by [[User:The Transhumanist]]. [[List of basic topics]] dates to 2001 and was started by Larry Sanger, so this

Re: [WikiEN-l] VfD against every article in Category.Outlines that is also in namespace 0? (aka: please stop writing another perverted encyclopedia inside wikipedia)

2009-01-22 Thread Scientia Potentia est
The Wikiproject about it is quite new. The way I see it, topic outlines are more of a topical glossary that lack the subcategorizing that a regular category would have. They could be of some use. bibliomaniac15 --- On Thu, 1/22/09, Matthew Brown mor...@gmail.com wrote: From: Matthew Brown

[WikiEN-l] Flagged Revisions trial proposal and vote

2009-01-22 Thread David Gerard
Proposed trial: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Flagged_revisions/Trial The voting page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Flagged_revisions/Trial/Votes Closes Fri 24 Jan at 24:00! (I guess that's Sat Jan 25, 00:00.) - d. ___

Re: [WikiEN-l] VfD against every article in Category.Outlines that is also in namespace 0? (aka: please stop writing another perverted encyclopedia inside wikipedia)

2009-01-22 Thread Mathias Schindler
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Scientia Potentia est bibliomaniac...@yahoo.com wrote: The Wikiproject about it is quite new. The way I see it, topic outlines are more of a topical glossary that lack the subcategorizing that a regular category would have. They could be of some use. Pages

Re: [WikiEN-l] VfD against every article in Category.Outlines that is also in namespace 0? (aka: please stop writing another perverted encyclopedia inside wikipedia)

2009-01-22 Thread Thomas Dalton
My recommendation would be to delete them on sight. Given the situation at en.wp, this is better done with a formal VfD, triple-signed by someone else and already attached objections and specialized templates for revision and arbitration, right? VfD? What year are you living in?

Re: [WikiEN-l] VfD against every article in Category.Outlines that is also in namespace 0? (aka: please stop writing another perverted encyclopedia inside wikipedia)

2009-01-22 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/1/22 Mathias Schindler mathias.schind...@gmail.com: For example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic_outline_of_Algeria is a list of articles somehow related to Algeria. This purpose is better served by either [[:en:Algeria]] (with full sentences) or by [[:en:Category:Algeria]] (with

Re: [WikiEN-l] VfD against every article in Category.Outlines that is also in namespace 0? (aka: please stop writing another perverted encyclopedia inside wikipedia)

2009-01-22 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/1/22 Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk: These seem to be a half-useful navigational handlist for a user. They're a bit clunky, but they do seem to fill a niche that might otherwise not be served very well; I really don't see how they're some kind of abomination that needs taken out

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Revisions trial proposal and vote

2009-01-22 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/1/22 Wilhelm Schnotz wilh...@nixeagle.org: That is a really short time period for a poll! The poll started weeks ago, I think David's just letting people know it's about to finish. (It seems the closing date was only just decided on.) ___

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Revisions trial proposal and vote

2009-01-22 Thread Wilhelm Schnotz
Ah ok! I figured something was up as we never have polls that end so fast! Thanks for posting here as I did not know otherwise! On 1/22/09, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/22 Wilhelm Schnotz wilh...@nixeagle.org: That is a really short time period for a poll! The poll

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Revisions trial proposal and vote

2009-01-22 Thread K. Peachey
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/23 Wilhelm Schnotz wilh...@nixeagle.org: Ah ok! I figured something was up as we never have polls that end so fast! Thanks for posting here as I did not know otherwise! If you've managed to miss the whole

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Revisions trial proposal and vote

2009-01-22 Thread Wilhelm Schnotz
Yep! You got it exactly :D On 1/22/09, K. Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/23 Wilhelm Schnotz wilh...@nixeagle.org: Ah ok! I figured something was up as we never have polls that end so fast! Thanks for

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Revisions trial proposal and vote

2009-01-22 Thread K. Peachey
now that it has been successfully tested elsewhere. Where and what was capacity was the site? i know know about the backlogs and such it would cause on somewhere huge like en.wiki even with all the autoconfirmed users being reviewers or whatever the term that they are using for it is now.

Re: [WikiEN-l] Flagged Revisions trial proposal and vote

2009-01-22 Thread Gwern Branwen
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