[WikiEN-l] Wikipedia’s Foundation Plans Expa nsion

2010-07-13 Thread Gwern Branwen
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/09/wikipedia-foundation-plans-expansion/ The foundation that runs the Wikipedia Web site plans to add 44 employees in the next year — roughly doubling the size of its current professional staff — and to raise $20 million to support a much-enhanced vision

Re: [WikiEN-l] Admin / experienced user flameout - how do we talk people down off the ledge?

2010-07-13 Thread Carcharoth
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 2:51 AM, Ian Woollard ian.wooll...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pretty sure that the main solution to this is to make the wiki experience better, not trying to specifically treat people that are getting frustrated's experience better. I agree. It works both ways. New editors,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Wikipedia’s Foundation Plans Exp ansion

2010-07-13 Thread Carcharoth
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Gwern Branwen gwe...@gmail.com wrote: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/09/wikipedia-foundation-plans-expansion/ The foundation that runs the Wikipedia Web site plans to add 44 employees in the next year — roughly doubling the size of its current

Re: [WikiEN-l] Admin / experienced user flameout - how do we talk people down off the ledge?

2010-07-13 Thread Ryan Delaney
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.comwrote: On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:48 AM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: snip I have had to walk away from recent changes repeatedly. Picking up on the walking away bit. There are, of course, those

Re: [WikiEN-l] Admin / experienced user flameout - how do we talk people down off the ledge?

2010-07-13 Thread FT2
The expectations upon admins are the pivot point for that. See [[ User:FT2/RfA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:FT2/RfA]]. Any ideas how we can get somewhere like that? FT2 On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 11:55 PM, Ryan Delaney ryan.dela...@gmail.comwrote: So to speak more generally, what I'm

Re: [WikiEN-l] Admin / experienced user flameout - how do we talk people down off the ledge?

2010-07-13 Thread geni
On 14 July 2010 02:07, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: The expectations upon admins are the pivot point for that. See [[ User:FT2/RfA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:FT2/RfA]]. Any ideas how we can get somewhere like that? FT2 Well to start with you could chuck your requirements out of the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Admin / experienced user flameout - how do we talk people down off the ledge?

2010-07-13 Thread David Goodman
Frankly, I see that as unwarranted pessimism. The sets of people who want to change things and people who want to cause trouble are not identical, though there is a substantial intersection. Admins who have the lack of judgement to try to force their desired change into policy by using their

Re: [WikiEN-l] Admin / experienced user flameout - how do we talk people down off the ledge?

2010-07-13 Thread Fred Bauder
On 14 July 2010 02:07, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: The expectations upon admins are the pivot point for that. See [[ User:FT2/RfA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:FT2/RfA]]. Any ideas how we can get somewhere like that? FT2 Well to start with you could chuck your requirements out of

Re: [WikiEN-l] Admin / experienced user flameout - how do we talk people down off the ledge?

2010-07-13 Thread George Herbert
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: On 14 July 2010 02:07, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: The expectations upon admins are the pivot point for that. See [[ User:FT2/RfA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:FT2/RfA]]. Any ideas how we can get somewhere like