Re: [Wikimania-l] Translation service for panel discussion

2014-04-15 Thread Hegger
Wikimania 2013, 125 Videos with an average access rate of 12. Even the video of Jimbo was with 11 calls below the average. Of what value are you talking about? From a theoretical value? The polling numbers for 2012 were slightly higher, but even they are beyond any comprehensible value. What

Re: [Wikimania-l] Translation service for panel discussion

2014-04-15 Thread Edward Saperia
I believe this Wikimania will be different. Our videos will be higher quality, and livestreamed and uploaded same day by a dedicated team. The videos will be broadcast by our media partners. We have a larger number of featured speakers who have their own audiences, that will attract people to the

Re: [Wikimania-l] Translation service for panel discussion

2014-04-15 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Edward Saperia e...@wikimanialondon.orgwrote: The livestreams will be promoted via a centralnotice My understanding is that this is far from a decided thing. There are still some massive concerns about your servers rolling over and dying with the traffic we

Re: [Wikimania-l] Translation service for panel discussion

2014-04-15 Thread Edward Saperia
I have a meeting with the venue team to discuss this today :-) On 15 April 2014 10:21, Philippe Beaudette phili...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Edward Saperia e...@wikimanialondon.orgwrote: The livestreams will be promoted via a centralnotice My understanding is

Re: [Wikimania-l] Translation service for panel discussion

2014-04-15 Thread James Alexander
To be honest I'm not completely sure I'm comfortable with that level of advertising (in fact it makes me very very uncomfortable) even if it works technically. This isn't TEDand I would hate to see it turn into that especially given the wide variety in organizers each year. James James

Re: [Wikimania-l] Translation service for panel discussion

2014-04-15 Thread Edward Saperia
It isn't TED, but from the get go I've had outreach as a primary goal with this event, and I've been planning and programming with that in mind. This doesn't have to set a precedent for future Wikimanias. Technical concerns aside, what negative outcomes are you imagining? *Edward Saperia* Chief

Re: [Wikimania-l] Translation service for panel discussion

2014-04-15 Thread Hegger
Sounds good! But we still have the problem with the question, that there are different ideas about whether lecturers have to be asked first if they want to appear as live stream and then to YouTube with their ​​ presentation. And certainly the somewhat strange idea that one should be

Re: [Wikimania-l] Translation service for panel discussion

2014-04-15 Thread Andrew Gray
Among other issues, pretty much anything in a CentralNotice leads to someone being very vocally upset with what they see as spam. It's hard to predict quite how large or vocal that number will be in this case, as we haven't done it before :-) (Are you thinking of some kind of specific message -

Re: [Wikimania-l] Translation service for panel discussion

2014-04-15 Thread Joseph Fox
I feel Wikimania is big enough that we could put a generic “Wikimania is happening, stream it over here” thing up as a notice without too many complaints. My concerns would lie in that we’re trying, to the best of my knowledge, to prevent this becoming an enwiki-focused affair, which in honesty

Re: [Wikimania-l] Translation service for panel discussion

2014-04-15 Thread Edward Saperia
Well, almost everything we do leads to *someone* being very vocally upset :) I haven't drafted what it would say yet, but I guess something along the lines of: Wikipedia is having its annual conference, Wikimania, where the community convene to discuss the future of the project - click here to

Re: [Wikimania-l] Translation service for panel discussion

2014-04-15 Thread Gordon Joly
On 15/04/14 10:17, Edward Saperia wrote: I believe this Wikimania will be different. Our videos will be higher quality, and livestreamed and uploaded same day by a dedicated team. The videos will be broadcast by our media partners. Shame that they will not be multicast. Gordo

Re: [Wikimania-l] Translation service for panel discussion

2014-04-15 Thread Daniel Schwen
Even the video of Jimbo was with 11 calls below the average. Of what value are you talking about? From a theoretical value? The way video was handled at previous Wikimanias has not been the optimum yet (no live streaming, very late upload). But even 12 accesses represent a substantial increase

Re: [Wikimania-l] Translation service for panel discussion

2014-04-15 Thread Quiddity
On 14-04-15 12:39 PM, Michael Peel wrote: On 15 Apr 2014, at 20:33, Hegger heinz.eg...@gmx.at wrote: Am 15.04.2014 19:47, schrieb Daniel Schwen: Even the video of Jimbo was with 11 calls below the average. Of what value are you talking about? From a theoretical value? The way video was

Re: [Wikimania-l] Translation service for panel discussion

2014-04-15 Thread Lodewijk
Hm, if you're going to advertize it on the centralnotice, maybe I will reconsider my availability for a live stream (perhaps depending on specifics). Seriously, while we have great speakers, I'm not sure all of us are confident enough for that kind of an outreach, nor would I feel that the

Re: [Wikimania-l] Translation service for panel discussion

2014-04-15 Thread Daniel Schwen
Seriously, while we have great speakers, I'm not sure all of us are confident enough for that kind of an outreach, nor would I feel that the average Wikimania speaker gives enough of a good impression to the average website visitor. Ok, Video makes your embarrassing talk somewhat permanent.

Re: [Wikimania-l] Translation service for panel discussion

2014-04-15 Thread Jan Ainali
On April 15, 2014, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote:Hm, if you're going to advertize it on the centralnotice, maybe I will reconsider my availability for a live stream (perhaps depending on specifics). I am confused. Are you saying you are okay with being recorded only if you have a

Re: [Wikimania-l] Translation service for panel discussion

2014-04-15 Thread Edward Saperia
* You think it is ok to waste the time of people who travelled thousands of miles to this conference with a crappy talk (the crappyness of which you apparently know in advance), but it would be too much of a burden on someone who spent the effort of a mere mouseclick to view your talk to

Re: [Wikimania-l] Translation service for panel discussion

2014-04-15 Thread Lodewijk
If the talk is being exposed actively to a much larger audience, then that would definitely become a consideration yes. Being online for those looking for it, feels very different than being pushed on top of one of the top websites to me. But maybe that is a personal thing. Lodewijk 2014-04-15

Re: [Wikimania-l] Translation service for panel discussion

2014-04-15 Thread Edward Saperia
On 15 April 2014 18:59, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 April 2014 13:47, Daniel Schwen li...@schwen.de wrote: To be a little provocative to say: Forget about the videos, these serve more the coverage and vanity of the speakers themselves. Hogwash. While I wouldn't go so