Re: [Wikimania-l] Coming up with a new process for Wikimania selection

2015-10-06 Thread James Forrester
On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 at 01:59 Lodewijk wrote: > Did anyone do a calculation whether holding it in an expensive city (say, > London) with cheaper flights actually /is/ cheaper than holding it in a > cheap city in Asia (say, Delhi or Mumbai)? And then I don't mean

Re: [Wikimania-l] Biggest disappointment from Wikimania 2017

2015-10-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
It's indeed a pity that things were not announced sooner and better, but the whole point of the new system is to decide earlier and waste less volunteer time/nerves. If we dislike having losers, let's design a system where there are no losers instead of asking that other people be the losers.

Re: [Wikimania-l] Biggest disappointment from Wikimania 2017

2015-10-06 Thread WereSpielChequers
But will there be fewer losers and less wasted effort under the continental rotation system? Under the set continent rotation system it won't be possible to bid one year, learn some lessons and bid the following year. You might get some overlap between bid teams three years apart, but I

Re: [Wikimania-l] Coming up with a new process for Wikimania selection

2015-10-06 Thread Lodewijk
Did you also consider the hotel costs etc in this calculation? I recall that catering and hotel costs in India were so much cheaper that it balanced out the additional flight costs for the chapters meeting - not sur ehow that would work oout on this scale though. Either way, it would be

Re: [Wikimania-l] Coming up with a new process for Wikimania selection

2015-10-06 Thread Lodewijk
OK, great that you like it - but what is your argument for it? I get the arguments for measuring distance in flight cost rather than time, and I get the reasoning that conferences shouldn't be too close together. But why should a conference in China disqualify Australia? Or why should London

Re: [Wikimania-l] Coming up with a new process for Wikimania selection

2015-10-06 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:57 AM, Lodewijk wrote: > .. > as a side note, of course I strongly support the regional conferences, and I > am thrilled to see that the WikiArabia conference is seeing a second > edition! When looking for parts of a new process for Wikimania

Re: [Wikimania-l] Coming up with a new process for Wikimania selection

2015-10-06 Thread Gnangarra
very irony of all of this is that the Australian chapter had scheduled a national-semi regional conference this past weekend but was that abandoned when the funding request was decline On 7 October 2015 at 08:11, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 7:57 AM,

Re: [Wikimania-l] Biggest disappointment from Wikimania 2017

2015-10-06 Thread Luca Martinelli
015-10-06 9:12 GMT+02:00 WereSpielChequers : > But will there be fewer losers and less wasted effort under the continental > rotation system? IMHO yes. It is better to be 100% sure that a location WILL be chosen for a particular event, instead of saying "well, we're

Re: [Wikimania-l] Coming up with a new process for Wikimania selection

2015-10-06 Thread Gnangarra
the idea is moving not just in distance but also in time that way travel will be shared more equally the time shift creates new opportunities for other people to access the event at low cost, ok 6 hours maybe too much but o hours has a serious potential to introduce bias the idea is to ensure

Re: [Wikimania-l] Biggest disappointment from Wikimania 2017

2015-10-06 Thread Paolo B.
On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Luca Martinelli wrote: > 015-10-06 9:12 GMT+02:00 WereSpielChequers : > > Also, I want to make a direct reference to the Manila 2016 Committee: > if I have to think how should they feel right now after the