Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

I mentioned about Esino Lario being top heavy on WMF presentations. Not everyone is likely to write in and make formal complaints on the lines they discussed personally with each other during the Wikimania conferences. Furthermore, the configuration and timing of the many

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 9:31 PM, Pine W wrote: > Harry, I recall hearing that there was a push a year or two back to alter > the proportion of presentations at Wikimania so that there were fewer WMF > presentations and more community presentations. I don't know if that was a > one time event or

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

No oversight, Nathan, and please don’t exaggerate. FWIW there is already an in-depth article in progress about Wikimania that was begun before that very short ‘In the news’ mention. It’s being written by another editor who first mentioned the mailing list and will be published in

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

The complaints in this thread have been reported in the Signpost, although without any of the countering comments. In what I imagine is an oversight, the co-author of the report in the Signpost (Kudpung) did not mention that he raised many of the complaints here himself.

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

Hi, WMUA board member here. We usually award three scholarships per year, we run the program since 2016. Out of 9 people having received a scholarship, we had 1 board member and 0 staff members. We do not have any priority to board members, they have to apply in the same way as others. At

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

I would like to have some comments on the issue, first going to wikimania is not of reward system for editing ( though to some extent it motivates a lot of people) Second, though many people get repeated scholarship, scholarships committees are being changed almost every year, if different people

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

Applicants tend to forget that same people are likely to be selected if same people are applying. I don't remember how many times I applied for scholarship, but I am sure that I applied regularly since users started seriously doubting scholarship granting process. In the year 2015 (I think)

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

2018-05-31 21:31 GMT+02:00 Harry Mitchell : > Since you raise chapter scholarships, it would be nice to see some of the > other big chapters (and to some extent the WMF) spending more on > scholarships for rank-and-file Wikimedians rather than staff and board > members. That might help with the

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

I have attended several Wikimanias. I would have thought that with the Wikipedias being voluntary contributed and managed projects, that the conference shoud have a sharp focus on attendance and presentations by the communities. However, this is not the case. Presentation time is,

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

Harry, I recall hearing that there was a push a year or two back to alter the proportion of presentations at Wikimania so that there were fewer WMF presentations and more community presentations. I don't know if that was a one time event or if that's ongoing. I have never been to Wikimania, and

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

Since you raise chapter scholarships, it would be nice to see some of the other big chapters (and to some extent the WMF) spending more on scholarships for rank-and-file Wikimedians rather than staff and board members. That might help with the perception that Wikimania is the same old faces year

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

Chris Keating, 31/05/2018 15:50: Therefore, the observation that some people get scholarships several years in a row is not strong evidence that the selection process is somehow biased towards a select few... True. Personally I would not state that there is such a bias, although there might

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

Let's imagine a totally fair, but not very good process: Scholarships get allocated completely at random. Some people would keep getting allocated scholarships, entirely randomly. Therefore, the observation that some people get scholarships several years in a row is not strong evidence that the

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

Hi all, I'd like to add a few words. Applicants tend to forget that same people are likely to be selected if same people are applying. I do not think that it is a first job of scholarship committee to check that every year there are new people. If certain community has a problem that Wikimedians

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

Mentioning names and making comments close to criticising those who got scholarship repeatedly is distasteful and I have to agree with Dariusz that such comment is unfair to these people. However, people are allowed to show their grievances if they considered themselves unjustly treated. When the

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

Hi, Just like Mykola, I attended Wikimania on different budgets. I believe I received a scholarship once, I was also denied once at least. The problem expressed in this topic, the way I see it, is that some people may be picked from year to year basing on the same reasons (good proposal, region,

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

This could also be discussed on the Malayalam Wikipedia village pump and/or the mailing list where the community can request the participants with a list of expectations. When a Wikimedian is awarded the scholarship on the basis of their own contribution to the larger movement, they do owe

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

Hi, As a disclaimer: I have been in multiple roles, including receiving a WMF scholarship (2014, 2017 and 2018), being denied a WMF scholarship, attending Wikimania at my own expense and reviewing Wikimania scholarship applications for a chapter. >From this experience I do not agree with the

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

Praveen, This could also be discussed on the Malayalam Wikipedia village pump and/or the mailing list where the community can request the participants with a list of expectations. When a Wikimedian is awarded the scholarship on the basis of their own contribution to the larger movement, they

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

cs, 30/05/2018 10:16: Is there any  other way  of investigating  these issues /without/ mentioning  the names of the scholarship awardees? Well, in theory we've been publishing the names of people who got a scholarship for a few years now, so it should be possible to make a complete list of

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

Is there any other way of investigating these issues without mentioning the names of the scholarship awardees? I don’t think anyone is criticising the awardees themselves - they are obviously grateful at having been selected and we certainly don’t resent their having the

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

Viswaprabha highlights a reason why some people may be appearing to get Montreal and CapeTown. Where as Kudpung is highlighting that over time some people seam to get many scholarship opportunities to attend, while others miss out or perpetually end up on the wait list. I dont think Kudpung is

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

I think this is the point where we are deviating from the original issue, and where I feel things are getting way too personal. Can we please stay in a general topic and refrain from analyzing who in particular may or may not be getting the long or short end of the stick? -- Siebrand > Op 30

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

Just for the information of all those who read this thread, I did not get selected this year through the normal scholarship filtration process. I happen to be among those who could not attend Wikimania 2017 at Montreal, even after going through all these bashing and grillings and then obtaining a

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

I am also concerned about the same people repeatedly receiving scholarships, and this is by no way of complaining that I did not receive one. As I said last year however, I believe it is also inappropriate to inform applicants that they have been placed on a short list. Not

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

On 29.05.2018 20:33, praveenp wrote: > I haven't seen any attempt to share the knowledge and wisdom acquired > from Wikimania to community through mailing list or wiki. Users > including me generally feel that community is being mocked on. Hi to all, without being too original here, and following

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

Given the context of the previous email you sent, I am assuming this is more a complaint that you didn't get selected than that the other two got selected. Similarly to the previous time you tried to have this discussion - I feel uncomfortable to make this about individuals. Is there a way to

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

Hi, Congratulation to all the selection committee who break the tradition[1] of selecting  one of the Malayalam communities two permanent Wikimania attendees, by selecting both of them. Congratulation to User:Netha Hussain & User:viswaprabha also. [1] "Granting Scholarship to same persons

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

Thank you Ellie! On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 7:49 PM, Ellie Young wrote: > > > > > *Registration and accommodation information is now up for everyone > at:https://wikimania2018.wikimedia.org/wiki/Registration >

Re: [Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

Thanks for sharing the information. Cheers, Balaji On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 11:19 PM, Ellie Young wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *All,Here's an update on various activities pertaining to the > upcomingWikimania '18 which is being held

[Wikimania-l] Update on Wikimania '18

*All,Here's an update on various activities pertaining to the upcomingWikimania '18 which is being held July 18-22 in Cape Town, South Africa.WMF Scholarship Program: 135 people were offered and subsequently accepteda full or partial scholarship to attend. The awardees are listed by usernames