Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2010 bidding process

[Samuel Klein]

On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 3:50 AM, Aphaia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I prefer to have a longer post-mortem phase than rushing into the next
 stage. I'm now in Singapore for transit and have given no many time to
 input feedbacks I had gotten from Wikimania attendees. Some are just
 complements, others improvement suggestions. I think one of important
 parts of city bidding is to clarify the criteria and feedback from the
 latest conference should be concerned in refining our current
 criteria.

 Best,


Well, the sooner we start, the longer it will last :-)Are the feedbacks
you received posted anywhere?  Do people with feedback know about the
Comments page on the wikimania2008wiki?

I've also been thinking that we should have a more active collaboration
/about/ wikimania and related events, including long-term hosting for
presentations and project-ideas and workshop-results, on metawiki (and not
on a site dedicated to a specific year).

Discussions about wikimania's purpose, including annual post-mortems, might
best go there.

Until we work out where, recent discussions have been posted to the
wikimania2008 site:
   http://wikimania2008.wikimedia.org/wiki/Post-mortem

Sharing in other languages the fact that there is a public post-mortem
discussion might be a good idea.

SJ




 On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 11:44 PM, effe iets anders
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Well, to be honest I think we first should think about the general
  time schedule. Do we want to hurry or do we first want to reconsider
  what kind or conference we want in the coming years and build the
  wikimanias around that idea. It means a lot whether we want a very
  unofficial conference or whether we want a more serious conference
  which could for instance mean more possibilities for finding sponsors
  and having a serious media look during the conference, more results
  with respect to the main goals we have etc etc... I do know that at
  least the program committee needs a huge evaluation (as soon as Jakob
  and me are home, we will do that I guess) and I assume also other
  teams want to do that, before we would do a wikimania wide evaluation,
  and draw results from that.
 
  So a few big questions ahead, which can very much influence the choice
  of the city. Personally I'd not want to rush anything until we know
  that.
 
  On the page you created, which is of course a draft, it has been
  assumed almost that we choose the early schedule, even though it is
  still a draft (you could also make changes there, and still call it a
  draft, even though the main window has been set).
 
  I sincerely hope we can have an open discussion *first* on whether we
  need evaluation, together with local team, committees, WMF etc, and
  then see how long we need for that to draw conclusions etc.
 
  Best regards,
 
  Lodewijk
 
  2008/7/23 Cary Bass [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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  effe iets anders wrote:
  | Ehm? Did you decide on the timeline now? :S
  |
  | Just for the record, is this a WMF decision, or just what we call in
  | Dutch a proefballon, a little test to taste the reactions.
  |
  | as explained in my previous email, I see barely advantages and a lot
  | of disadvantages. I sincerely hope this time schedule will not be
  | close to what it will be, especially not without a little more
  | rationale?
  |
  | Best regards,
  |
  | Lodewijk
  |
 
  Perhaps you missed the page title Draft Timeline.  Or my comment, It
  *is* a wiki.  That is, I anticipate much discussion and explanation as
  well as consensus about the timelines.  I believe Damien Finol has
  already begun the talk page.
 
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Re: [Wikimania-l] Comments

[Muhammad Abdul-Mageed]

Dear Moushira and all,

With reference to Moushira's note below, I believe that you and your team 
really did a wonderful job. Believe me, I have been to four other conferences 
this last year--2 of them were international--and, in my view, the Wikimania 
one was better than the four of them in terms of organization, among other 
things. I and other presenters were not even able to access the wireless 
network except rarely in one of these. So, good job, and I am sure that those 
Wikipedians who have seen the Pyramids, Sphinx, and temples in Luxor, etc. have 
very much enjoyed them. For me, it was a great venue where I met many people 
who are working on Arabic open source stuff, translation, etc. whom I could 
never have met elsewhere.

Cheers,

--Muhammad

I just signed up to the list to drop a few lines to the long thread of
 emails entitled: Re:Comments :). I believe I do not have much to say after
 all that was said, I can just clarify few points, but first: Majorly, I am
 sorry to hear that your experience in the country that hosted Wikimania 2008
 was that harsh, and I wish you a pleasant experience in the future
 Wikimanias. I wish the team could have made it better to you by any means,
 but I am afraid we have no control over Egyptian culture! I am sorry. Hint:
 The families that you used to see near by BA premises; they do not live or
 reside there and they are not homeless. They are patients and patients
 families that make it early to the public hospital that is next doors to the
 library. They are mostly from country side, travel long miles to reach their
 early, and they are too many that mostly the hospital does not occupy them.
 A local debate has long been taking place on the relocation of the hospital,
 but after all they are patients, they are harmless, and this is mostly how
 things are in our side of the world..

 On Wi-Fi: I am sorry if anyone had problems with getting connected, this is
 mostly for the uneven distribution of users; the access point of B1 was
 mostly occupied, while the one on entrance level and the level before had
 room for plenty of IPs. Relocating could have helped..I am sorry if that was
 not made clear on site, and I apologize and am sorry if anyone suffered with
 getting connected.

 Effeietsanders: Press Conference video is available along with other
 sessions herehttp://www.bibalex.org/isis/Frontend/archive/Archive_Movie.aspx

 Wishing Patricio and his team all best of luck with Wikimania2009..

 Best Regards,
 Moushira


--
Muhammad Abdul-Mageed,
PhD Student
Dept. of Linguistics,
Indiana University, Bloomington,
USA
www.mumageed.blogspot.com





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