Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 73, Issue 27
Hotel prices seem too expensive. I went back and checked the bid: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/Bids/Washington,_D.C. It specificaly mentioned cheaper options - and to be specific - hostels for 48$ per night. Most wikipedians can not afford much more (we are talking about 6 nights so 1t $180 we reach almost $1,000 for accomodations, without meals, and including flghts it may reach $2,500 per attendee). I do not know how it is in your country, but in my opinion, most attendees can not afford that without full scholarships. Deror --- On Sun, 4/22/12, wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: From: wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 73, Issue 27 To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sunday, April 22, 2012, 5:32 PM Send Wikimania-l mailing list submissions to wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikimania-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Wikimania-l digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Maarten Dammers) 2. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Sage Ross) 3. Re: Scholarship and early registration (stephen wanjau) 4. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Thomas Dalton) 5. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Samat) 6. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Tomasz Koz?owski) 7. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Thomas Dalton) 8. Re: Scholarship and early registration (James Hare) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:09:39 +0200 From: Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Scholarship and early registration Message-ID: 4f940313.8020...@mdammers.nl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed Op 19-4-2012 18:32, Samat schreef: You are so impatient, Orsi :) Sage said:/very/ close. This is not impatience. Organization is just very late. Last year the scholarships were announced end of March, four months in advance of Wikimania 2011. Now it's only 81 days left for Wikimania 2012. It's a bit like the hotels, almost done since the beginning of April. Maarten -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/attachments/20120422/d2db2f2f/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 09:27:01 -0400 From: Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Scholarship and early registration Message-ID: ca+qewsnth6r+djgf7nri+tfysy76fjpzu3f-bz4xqso+skh...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Yes. We're sorry it took so long. Results went out Friday. Chapter scholarships should be finalized soon. On the plus side, we expect to leave next year's team in a good position to launch the process early. -Sage (sent from my phone) On Apr 22, 2012 9:09 AM, Maarten Dammers maar...@mdammers.nl wrote: Op 19-4-2012 18:32, Samat schreef: You are so impatient, Orsi :) Sage said:* very* close. This is not impatience. Organization is just very late. Last year the scholarships were announced end of March, four months in advance of Wikimania 2011. Now it's only 81 days left for Wikimania 2012. It's a bit like the hotels, almost done since the beginning of April. Maarten ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/attachments/20120422/21e0435b/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 3 Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:48:20 +0300 From: stephen wanjau stevewan...@wikimedia.or.ke To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Scholarship and early registration Message-ID: CAMgBHWnVMVQOBRsstA+VzCgB+-TSx0RL+etwXtGTPt2=v=n...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello, I haven't received a feedback on my scholarship application status. best, [[user:stephenwanjau]] On 4/22/12, Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Yes. We're sorry it took so long. Results went out Friday. Chapter scholarships should be finalized soon. On the plus side, we expect to leave next year's team in a good
Re: [Wikimania-l] Scholarship and early registration
At least there will be plenty of dorms available if I'm reading the bidhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/Bids/Washington,_D.C.#Accommodations, for 24$ a bed with double occupancy. These were at least confirmed already *in the bid* so I guess we can have those up soon, a year later :) Because yeah, this amount per night is what I would ideally spend on a whole Wikimania for staying etc. Best, Lodewijk El 23 de abril de 2012 03:51, James Hare messedroc...@gmail.com escribió: I and every American will concede the U.S. tax code does not make sense. (Technically this is the D.C. tax code we're dealing with, but just another part of the problem.) But now that we have that settled, let me know if you want me to clarify a price. Regards, James Hare On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Joseph Seddon josephsed...@gmail.com wrote: Primarily sensible tax policies :) It is a very annoying practice though. And pointless because rarely is there any indication of what the actual tax is until youve bought something. So you neither know how much your going to pay or have any idea to what to expect from the state. Seddon 2012/4/23 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/4/22 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:32 PM, James Hare messedroc...@gmail.com wrote: The deals we're arranging have no extra charge for dual occupancy. This might sound extremely stupid, but make sure that dual occupancy means 2 beds in a room, not a Queen Size Bed. There are surprisingly few hotels that actually offer two separate beds in a room or their contingent of such rooms is actually quite limited. At the prices that were mentionned, you really want to book all the double bed rooms in those hotels, because very few people will be able to afford a single room. Best, Delphine -- I'm not sure about this... While I haven't done a survey or discovered any references on point, I've stayed in a number of hotels in Washington and throughout the U.S. and almost always encounter two beds in a room as a single occupant. Since I'm commenting anyway, I will say that $149 is a very good rate for hotels in Washington D.C. Point taken on the beds. It must be a silly European habit ;). I am not arguing with the fact that $150 is cheap or expensive for Washington. My point was rather to say that $150/night is not something that many wikip/medians can afford. And while Thomas Dalton denigrates it as a silly American habit to quote prices before taxes, that may be because we have so many different tax domains with different rates. It helps to know the pre-tax amounts (similar to how airline seats are often quoted) for comparison purposes, as the tax component will give you no sense of the accommodations or amenities expected etc. I suppose that may not be commonly understood by travelers from small nations with primarily national tax policies. Heh, I like the small nations part a lot ;). You're right though, at least in Europe, you know the tax, but it's included in the display price. Shopping in the US can quickly become a problem if you max out your available dollar by just adding up numbers without thinking the tax. Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Scholarship and early registration
Hi James, I would like to strongly suggest to communicate this to all people that registered. If 150 USD is going to be the cheapest you can provide (and for most people it is just way out of their range) it is only fair to tell them that now - because every day they will wait for you to come up with those great cheap hotel rates that were promised (but as we understand now, that is only for DC standards) the cheaper hotels get more expensive. There's probably not much more you can do at this point on cheap hotels, but letting them know well in time is only fair. Not everyone is on this mailing list (by far). Lodewijk El 22 de abril de 2012 16:39, James Hare messedroc...@gmail.com escribió: It does seem like we're being mute about things, and I do regret that. But as a personal rule I don't like announcing things before they're done. You have a right to complete information and that is what you will get—once it is available. Here is a sneak peak. We have the official hotel which will run $189/night. It is a brief walk from the venue (or you could take a $6 taxi if you insist). It gets you some of the best free hotel wireless in DC as well as continental breakfast. We will also be making a deal with a $149/night hotel that is VERY close to the venue, but you have to purchase breakfast. We also got a couple of hotels thrown in at $149/night with free breakfast and wireless, but they are farther from the venue (but we can easily arrange for group transportation). These prices are before DC's ludicrous hotel tax. I'd also like to make some beds in the hostel available for general consumption, but between all the people receiving scholarships, I am not sure that can happen. If I had my druthers, we'd have cheaper hotel rates. However, the $189/night hotel is already at a steep discount (it normally sells for $240 in the summer) and the $149 rate is the best you will get in Washington, DC during the summer. It is worth noting that as a conference we are prioritizing hotels that are close to the venue (except for the two which are farther away, but those were too good an offer to pass up—they're NICE hotels). You are all free men and women and are welcome to book somewhere cheaply if you can find somewhere cheap, since we figured that those looking to save money are going to go to Priceline no matter what. I shouldn't be saying this, but you may be able to get a good rate on hotels if you book in Arlington; specifically, near the Rosslyn, Court House, or Clarendon metro stations. Those are all on the same line as the venue (located by the Foggy Bottom–GWU station), but are urbanized enough areas that you don't need a car. Additionally, since they are outside the city and in Virginia, the hotel tax is significantly cheaper. If you're of limited means, consider booking in Arlington. If you can afford the extra cost and would like to stay close to the venue, adjacent to our special events and to great neighborhoods in general, and in close proximity to other Wikipedians, please consider the hotels we'll be promoting on our website soon. ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
[Wikimania-l] Badges
Dear organizing team, Thanks for offering 4 check-boxes for the details on the badge! May I ask, how will the details be presented? I think it'll be a useful piece of information for many of us whose username is the same as our real name. If it looks like First Last username project it'll be a bit redundant for us to have our name written exactly the same way twice; but if it looks like First Last [[User:Username]]@project then it'll be useful to have both. Also, on the drop-down menu for project there is only wikipedia, wikibooks etc. but not a choice of the language. Will that be a useful thing to have? Deryck ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Badges
Hi, On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Nicholas Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.com wrote: Some users may not be affiliated with any project or chapter, and may not have a username. I suggest First Last Username (optional) Affiliation Actually, I am pretty sure some people do not wish to have their real name printed on the badges alongside their nickname. I can't remember if the question was asked (I hope it was), but the end result should probably be something like: First Last (optional if Username is provided) Username (optional if First Last is provided) Affiliation (if provided) best, Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Badges
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com wrote: Dear organizing team, Thanks for offering 4 check-boxes for the details on the badge! May I ask, how will the details be presented? I think it'll be a useful piece of information for many of us whose username is the same as our real name. If it looks like First Last username project it'll be a bit redundant for us to have our name written exactly the same way twice; but if it looks like Well, my username has nothing to do with my real name :) So it won't be redundant for all :P First Last [[User:Username]]@project This said, I think that having: [[Username]] (ie. the brackets around the user name) is a nice way to avoid complete redundancy when the Username is the same as the First and Last Name. Cheers, Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Badges
I would recommend putting square brackets (and maybe User:) around the username whenever both real name and username are supplied. It's seldom immediately obvious which name is the username and which name is the real name if you don't speak the other person's mother language! Deryck 2012/4/23 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com wrote: Dear organizing team, Thanks for offering 4 check-boxes for the details on the badge! May I ask, how will the details be presented? I think it'll be a useful piece of information for many of us whose username is the same as our real name. If it looks like First Last username project it'll be a bit redundant for us to have our name written exactly the same way twice; but if it looks like Well, my username has nothing to do with my real name :) So it won't be redundant for all :P First Last [[User:Username]]@project This said, I think that having: [[Username]] (ie. the brackets around the user name) is a nice way to avoid complete redundancy when the Username is the same as the First and Last Name. Cheers, Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Badges
Ladies and gentlemen, I fear we may be in danger of falling afoul of Parkinson's Law of Triviality here Richard Symonds Office Development Manager Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 07885 764 613 Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited, a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). It is an independent non-profit organization with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com wrote: I would recommend putting square brackets (and maybe User:) around the username whenever both real name and username are supplied. It's seldom immediately obvious which name is the username and which name is the real name if you don't speak the other person's mother language! Deryck 2012/4/23 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com wrote: Dear organizing team, Thanks for offering 4 check-boxes for the details on the badge! May I ask, how will the details be presented? I think it'll be a useful piece of information for many of us whose username is the same as our real name. If it looks like First Last username project it'll be a bit redundant for us to have our name written exactly the same way twice; but if it looks like Well, my username has nothing to do with my real name :) So it won't be redundant for all :P First Last [[User:Username]]@project This said, I think that having: [[Username]] (ie. the brackets around the user name) is a nice way to avoid complete redundancy when the Username is the same as the First and Last Name. Cheers, Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Badges
Are you sure an apostrophe is required and that it is not Parkinsons Law of Triviality? El 23 de abril de 2012 16:09, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk escribió: Ladies and gentlemen, I fear we may be in danger of falling afoul of Parkinson's Law of Triviality here Richard Symonds Office Development Manager Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 07885 764 613 Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited, a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). It is an independent non-profit organization with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com wrote: I would recommend putting square brackets (and maybe User:) around the username whenever both real name and username are supplied. It's seldom immediately obvious which name is the username and which name is the real name if you don't speak the other person's mother language! Deryck 2012/4/23 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com wrote: Dear organizing team, Thanks for offering 4 check-boxes for the details on the badge! May I ask, how will the details be presented? I think it'll be a useful piece of information for many of us whose username is the same as our real name. If it looks like First Last username project it'll be a bit redundant for us to have our name written exactly the same way twice; but if it looks like Well, my username has nothing to do with my real name :) So it won't be redundant for all :P First Last [[User:Username]]@project This said, I think that having: [[Username]] (ie. the brackets around the user name) is a nice way to avoid complete redundancy when the Username is the same as the First and Last Name. Cheers, Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Badges
For security reasons, the first and last name MUST be on the badge. Only the username and affiliation can be optional. Those who do not want their real name associated with a username should only provide their first and last. Sincerely, Nicholas Michael Bashour President Wikimedia District of Columbia Washington, DC, USA 2012/4/23 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com Hi, On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Nicholas Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.com wrote: Some users may not be affiliated with any project or chapter, and may not have a username. I suggest First Last Username (optional) Affiliation Actually, I am pretty sure some people do not wish to have their real name printed on the badges alongside their nickname. I can't remember if the question was asked (I hope it was), but the end result should probably be something like: First Last (optional if Username is provided) Username (optional if First Last is provided) Affiliation (if provided) best, Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Badges
That seems to imply a Law of Triviality that only those systems involving parkinsons. Seddon On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.orgwrote: Are you sure an apostrophe is required and that it is not Parkinsons Law of Triviality? El 23 de abril de 2012 16:09, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk escribió: Ladies and gentlemen, I fear we may be in danger of falling afoul of Parkinson's Law of Triviality here Richard Symonds Office Development Manager Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 07885 764 613 Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited, a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). It is an independent non-profit organization with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.comwrote: I would recommend putting square brackets (and maybe User:) around the username whenever both real name and username are supplied. It's seldom immediately obvious which name is the username and which name is the real name if you don't speak the other person's mother language! Deryck 2012/4/23 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com wrote: Dear organizing team, Thanks for offering 4 check-boxes for the details on the badge! May I ask, how will the details be presented? I think it'll be a useful piece of information for many of us whose username is the same as our real name. If it looks like First Last username project it'll be a bit redundant for us to have our name written exactly the same way twice; but if it looks like Well, my username has nothing to do with my real name :) So it won't be redundant for all :P First Last [[User:Username]]@project This said, I think that having: [[Username]] (ie. the brackets around the user name) is a nice way to avoid complete redundancy when the Username is the same as the First and Last Name. Cheers, Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Badges
I agree. There is going to have to be some room for manoeuvre on that. Seddon On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com wrote: I think there are a number of regular Wikimania attendees who, for privacy reasons, would not like to use their real names at Wikimania and other offline Wikimedia activities. Enacting this new rule at this point could turn them away, just saying... On 23 April 2012 15:12, Nicholas Michael Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.com wrote: For security reasons, the first and last name MUST be on the badge. Only the username and affiliation can be optional. Those who do not want their real name associated with a username should only provide their first and last. Sincerely, Nicholas Michael Bashour President Wikimedia District of Columbia Washington, DC, USA 2012/4/23 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com Hi, On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Nicholas Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.com wrote: Some users may not be affiliated with any project or chapter, and may not have a username. I suggest First Last Username (optional) Affiliation Actually, I am pretty sure some people do not wish to have their real name printed on the badges alongside their nickname. I can't remember if the question was asked (I hope it was), but the end result should probably be something like: First Last (optional if Username is provided) Username (optional if First Last is provided) Affiliation (if provided) best, Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Badges
That is a good idea. We should have the affiliation in the badge for sure (for those who want it - of course). _ *Béria Lima* *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos* On 23 April 2012 10:23, Nicholas Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.com wrote: Some users may not be affiliated with any project or chapter, and may not have a username. I suggest First Last Username (optional) Affiliation Sincerely, Nicholas Michael Bashour Sent from my iPhone Am 23.04.2012 um 09:18 schrieb Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com: Dear organizing team, Thanks for offering 4 check-boxes for the details on the badge! May I ask, how will the details be presented? I think it'll be a useful piece of information for many of us whose username is the same as our real name. If it looks like First Last username project it'll be a bit redundant for us to have our name written exactly the same way twice; but if it looks like First Last [[User:Username]]@project then it'll be useful to have both. Also, on the drop-down menu for project there is only wikipedia, wikibooks etc. but not a choice of the language. Will that be a useful thing to have? Deryck ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Badge
Deryck has raised a fair point on real names on badges, as this would rise up during checking-in: for real names do you mean the one on documents or do you mean the one we are normally called? I'm usually called Alan but it's nowhere in my official identification papers bear that name! I'm not sure about the situation of Deryck but I supposed many Hongkongers could face a dilemma if a strict real name policy is pursued at the door! Alan Sent on the road On 23 Apr, 2012, at 22:26, wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Send Wikimania-l mailing list submissions to wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikimania-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Wikimania-l digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Badges (Deryck Chan) 2. Re: Badges (Florence Devouard) 3. Re: Badges (Joseph Seddon) 4. Re: Badges (Nicholas Michael Bashour) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:14:58 +0100 From: Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Badges Message-ID: ca+f5pq_tw8o7yfywzxjy8wk3_t_gvbyq4wqs63behe_dzbl...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I think there are a number of regular Wikimania attendees who, for privacy reasons, would not like to use their real names at Wikimania and other offline Wikimedia activities. Enacting this new rule at this point could turn them away, just saying... On 23 April 2012 15:12, Nicholas Michael Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.comwrote: For security reasons, the first and last name MUST be on the badge. Only the username and affiliation can be optional. Those who do not want their real name associated with a username should only provide their first and last. Sincerely, Nicholas Michael Bashour President Wikimedia District of Columbia Washington, DC, USA 2012/4/23 Delphine M?nard notafi...@gmail.com Hi, On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Nicholas Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.com wrote: Some users may not be affiliated with any project or chapter, and may not have a username. I suggest First Last Username (optional) Affiliation Actually, I am pretty sure some people do not wish to have their real name printed on the badges alongside their nickname. I can't remember if the question was asked (I hope it was), but the end result should probably be something like: First Last (optional if Username is provided) Username (optional if First Last is provided) Affiliation (if provided) best, Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/attachments/20120423/fab37459/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 16:16:24 +0200 From: Florence Devouard anth...@anthere.org To: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Badges Message-ID: 4f956438.1060...@anthere.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed Security man, security On 4/23/12 4:14 PM, Deryck Chan wrote: I think there are a number of regular Wikimania attendees who, for privacy reasons, would not like to use their real names at Wikimania and other offline Wikimedia activities. Enacting this new rule at this point could turn them away, just saying... On 23 April 2012 15:12, Nicholas Michael Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.com mailto:nicholasbash...@gmail.com wrote: For security reasons, the first and last name MUST be on the badge. Only the username and affiliation can be optional. Those who do not want their real name associated with a username should only provide their first and last. Sincerely, Nicholas Michael Bashour President Wikimedia District of Columbia Washington, DC, USA 2012/4/23 Delphine M?nard notafi...@gmail.com mailto:notafi...@gmail.com Hi
Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 73, Issue 29
DEAR FRIENDS:THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR INFORMING ME ABOUT THIS INTERESTING ISSUES AND RECEIVE MY SOLID CONVICTION THAT YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY VERY WELL ORIENTED. THANK YOU ONCE MOREREINA DR. REINA SOTILLO DE GALGANO, PH.D. --- El dom 22-abr-12, wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org escribió: De: wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org Asunto: Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 73, Issue 29 Para: wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Fecha: domingo, 22 de abril de 2012, 21:37 Send Wikimania-l mailing list submissions to wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikimania-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Wikimania-l digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Announcement two finalists for Wikimania 2013 (steve virgin) 2. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Delphine M?nard) 3. Re: Scholarship and early registration (James Hare) 4. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Nathan) 5. Re: Scholarship and early registration (James Hare) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 21:24:26 +0100 From: steve virgin st...@mediafocusuk.com To: 'Wikimania general list \(open subscription\)' wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Announcement two finalists for Wikimania 2013 Message-ID: 01cb01cd20c5$e99d03c0$bcd70b40$@com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Good luck to London and Hong Kong from the Bristol team Thanks to the judges for their patience, care and deliberation. Best Wishes Steve V on behalf of the team From: wikimania-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimania-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Lodewijk Sent: 22 April 2012 20:34 To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) Subject: [Wikimania-l] Announcement two finalists for Wikimania 2013 Dear all, it is my pleasure to announce that the jury has been able to come up with an intermediate result - and I would like to share with you the fact that two finalist bids have been selected. All bids have been examined and discussed at three public IRC meetings and several private conversations, and we have come to the conclusion that we will now focus our attention on the two bids with in our opinion the highest potential: Hong Kong and London (in alphabetical order). We were blessed this year with a strong field of bids, and I would like to extend our sincere thanks to the bidding teams of Bristol, Naples and Surakarta for their extensive and well worked out bids - but also the effort they put into answering our extensive enquiries. I think all three bids had very good qualities and their strong points and with work could make a wonderful and very competing bid in a future year. This decision has been made based on the primary evaluation of the bid quality, with a special focus to suitability of the Venue, Accommodation and the reliability and viability of the local team (did we have the feeling they were up for the task). We will not be sharing an extensive reasoning at this point for each bid - but I think we can give feedback after the final decision about the winning bid has been made, in private communication. So what is next? The two candidates will be reviewed more extensively, we will assess the risks and whether they will actually be able to live up to the promises more thoroughly. We may be needing a few days extra compared to the original timeline, but hopefully not too much. With kind regards, for the Wikimania 2013 jury, Lodewijk Gelauff -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/attachments/20120422/06ffdb65/attachment-0001.html -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 02:11:15 +0200 From: Delphine M?nard notafi...@gmail.com To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Scholarship and early registration Message-ID: CAHppPBdju6R9trrkAswT6oKnpfsJMqt=6Lap04xRpeZQXu8P=w...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:32 PM, James Hare messedroc...@gmail.com wrote: The deals we're arranging have no extra charge for dual occupancy. This might sound extremely stupid, but make sure that dual occupancy means 2 beds in a room, not a Queen Size Bed. There are surprisingly few hotels that actually offer two separate beds in a room or their contingent of such rooms is actually quite limited. At the prices that were mentionned, you really want to book all
Re: [Wikimania-l] Badges
Israel has very tight security and I'm pretty sure they didn't insist on printing real names on badges. Genuinely tight security does not require outing pseudonymous wikimanians. If I go to DC it will be my first trip to the US since I received a death threat from somebody there. That's what I call a security risk, and my circumstances will be quite commonplace amongst Wikimanians. As an admin on EN wiki its easy to get quite blasé about the armed crazies in the US. I'd like to relax about that aspect and assume that security is being covered, but this nonsense about printing real names on badges for security reasons does not inspire confidence in DC's security arrangements. WSC On 23 April 2012 15:33, Nicholas Michael Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.comwrote: We definitely understand concerns surrounding privacy issues vs security issues, particularly in the US, and we want to accommodate all attendees who wish to keep their real names off their badges. We'll be looking into security requirements, but, for now, the established status quo of providing either your real name, user name, or both is still in place. I'm hoping that doesn't have to change. Sincerely, Nicholas Michael Bashour President Wikimedia District of Columbia Washington, DC, USA 2012/4/23 Joseph Seddon josephsed...@gmail.com I agree. There is going to have to be some room for manoeuvre on that. Seddon On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.comwrote: I think there are a number of regular Wikimania attendees who, for privacy reasons, would not like to use their real names at Wikimania and other offline Wikimedia activities. Enacting this new rule at this point could turn them away, just saying... On 23 April 2012 15:12, Nicholas Michael Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.com wrote: For security reasons, the first and last name MUST be on the badge. Only the username and affiliation can be optional. Those who do not want their real name associated with a username should only provide their first and last. Sincerely, Nicholas Michael Bashour President Wikimedia District of Columbia Washington, DC, USA 2012/4/23 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com Hi, On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Nicholas Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.com wrote: Some users may not be affiliated with any project or chapter, and may not have a username. I suggest First Last Username (optional) Affiliation Actually, I am pretty sure some people do not wish to have their real name printed on the badges alongside their nickname. I can't remember if the question was asked (I hope it was), but the end result should probably be something like: First Last (optional if Username is provided) Username (optional if First Last is provided) Affiliation (if provided) best, Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
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On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 6:13 PM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Israel has very tight security and I'm pretty sure they didn't insist on printing real names on badges. Genuinely tight security does not require outing pseudonymous wikimanians. If I go to DC it will be my first trip to the US since I received a death threat from somebody there. That's what I call a security risk, and my circumstances will be quite commonplace amongst Wikimanians. As an admin on EN wiki its easy to get quite blasé about the armed crazies in the US. I'd like to relax about that aspect and assume that security is being covered, but this nonsense about printing real names on badges for security reasons does not inspire confidence in DC's security arrangements. Nicholas is double checking with the venue but I am almost positive that usernames only on a badge (if you prefer that way) is not a problem. Even places like the National Archives and Library of Congress don't ask for an ID when you enter. (only the metal detector, but they don't care who you are). Now, if we are able to arrange special tours of the U.S. Capitol (entirely optional for attendees), we'll need to provide them names for security but it's a private matter and doesn't have any effect on what goes on your badge. Cheers, Katie WSC On 23 April 2012 15:33, Nicholas Michael Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.com wrote: We definitely understand concerns surrounding privacy issues vs security issues, particularly in the US, and we want to accommodate all attendees who wish to keep their real names off their badges. We'll be looking into security requirements, but, for now, the established status quo of providing either your real name, user name, or both is still in place. I'm hoping that doesn't have to change. Sincerely, Nicholas Michael Bashour President Wikimedia District of Columbia Washington, DC, USA 2012/4/23 Joseph Seddon josephsed...@gmail.com I agree. There is going to have to be some room for manoeuvre on that. Seddon On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.comwrote: I think there are a number of regular Wikimania attendees who, for privacy reasons, would not like to use their real names at Wikimania and other offline Wikimedia activities. Enacting this new rule at this point could turn them away, just saying... On 23 April 2012 15:12, Nicholas Michael Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.com wrote: For security reasons, the first and last name MUST be on the badge. Only the username and affiliation can be optional. Those who do not want their real name associated with a username should only provide their first and last. Sincerely, Nicholas Michael Bashour President Wikimedia District of Columbia Washington, DC, USA 2012/4/23 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com Hi, On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Nicholas Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.com wrote: Some users may not be affiliated with any project or chapter, and may not have a username. I suggest First Last Username (optional) Affiliation Actually, I am pretty sure some people do not wish to have their real name printed on the badges alongside their nickname. I can't remember if the question was asked (I hope it was), but the end result should probably be something like: First Last (optional if Username is provided) Username (optional if First Last is provided) Affiliation (if provided) best, Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- Board member, Wikimedia District of Columbia http://wikimediadc.org @wikimediadc / @wikimania2012 ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org
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On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:21 PM, aude aude.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 6:13 PM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Israel has very tight security and I'm pretty sure they didn't insist on printing real names on badges. Genuinely tight security does not require outing pseudonymous wikimanians. If I go to DC it will be my first trip to the US since I received a death threat from somebody there. That's what I call a security risk, and my circumstances will be quite commonplace amongst Wikimanians. As an admin on EN wiki its easy to get quite blasé about the armed crazies in the US. I'd like to relax about that aspect and assume that security is being covered, but this nonsense about printing real names on badges for security reasons does not inspire confidence in DC's security arrangements. Nicholas is double checking with the venue but I am almost positive that usernames only on a badge (if you prefer that way) is not a problem. Even places like the National Archives and Library of Congress don't ask for an ID when you enter. (only the metal detector, but they don't care who you are). Now, if we are able to arrange special tours of the U.S. Capitol (entirely optional for attendees), we'll need to provide them names for security but it's a private matter and doesn't have any effect on what goes on your badge. Cheers, Katie Right. Real name is required for registration to a certain extent, but I personally have no reason to believe anyone is required to keep their real-world identities on display. I have asked to verify this. Regards, James Hare WSC On 23 April 2012 15:33, Nicholas Michael Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.com wrote: We definitely understand concerns surrounding privacy issues vs security issues, particularly in the US, and we want to accommodate all attendees who wish to keep their real names off their badges. We'll be looking into security requirements, but, for now, the established status quo of providing either your real name, user name, or both is still in place. I'm hoping that doesn't have to change. Sincerely, Nicholas Michael Bashour President Wikimedia District of Columbia Washington, DC, USA 2012/4/23 Joseph Seddon josephsed...@gmail.com I agree. There is going to have to be some room for manoeuvre on that. Seddon On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.com wrote: I think there are a number of regular Wikimania attendees who, for privacy reasons, would not like to use their real names at Wikimania and other offline Wikimedia activities. Enacting this new rule at this point could turn them away, just saying... On 23 April 2012 15:12, Nicholas Michael Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.com wrote: For security reasons, the first and last name MUST be on the badge. Only the username and affiliation can be optional. Those who do not want their real name associated with a username should only provide their first and last. Sincerely, Nicholas Michael Bashour President Wikimedia District of Columbia Washington, DC, USA 2012/4/23 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com Hi, On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Nicholas Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.com wrote: Some users may not be affiliated with any project or chapter, and may not have a username. I suggest First Last Username (optional) Affiliation Actually, I am pretty sure some people do not wish to have their real name printed on the badges alongside their nickname. I can't remember if the question was asked (I hope it was), but the end result should probably be something like: First Last (optional if Username is provided) Username (optional if First Last is provided) Affiliation (if provided) best, Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list
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After double checking to make sure, rest assured that anonymity will be protected and you will, as before, have a choice of what you want to display on your badge. I apologize for any confusion :) See you in July! Sincerely, Nicholas Michael Bashour President Wikimedia District of Columbia Washington, DC, USA 2012/4/23 aude aude.w...@gmail.com On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 6:13 PM, WereSpielChequers werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote: Israel has very tight security and I'm pretty sure they didn't insist on printing real names on badges. Genuinely tight security does not require outing pseudonymous wikimanians. If I go to DC it will be my first trip to the US since I received a death threat from somebody there. That's what I call a security risk, and my circumstances will be quite commonplace amongst Wikimanians. As an admin on EN wiki its easy to get quite blasé about the armed crazies in the US. I'd like to relax about that aspect and assume that security is being covered, but this nonsense about printing real names on badges for security reasons does not inspire confidence in DC's security arrangements. Nicholas is double checking with the venue but I am almost positive that usernames only on a badge (if you prefer that way) is not a problem. Even places like the National Archives and Library of Congress don't ask for an ID when you enter. (only the metal detector, but they don't care who you are). Now, if we are able to arrange special tours of the U.S. Capitol (entirely optional for attendees), we'll need to provide them names for security but it's a private matter and doesn't have any effect on what goes on your badge. Cheers, Katie WSC On 23 April 2012 15:33, Nicholas Michael Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.com wrote: We definitely understand concerns surrounding privacy issues vs security issues, particularly in the US, and we want to accommodate all attendees who wish to keep their real names off their badges. We'll be looking into security requirements, but, for now, the established status quo of providing either your real name, user name, or both is still in place. I'm hoping that doesn't have to change. Sincerely, Nicholas Michael Bashour President Wikimedia District of Columbia Washington, DC, USA 2012/4/23 Joseph Seddon josephsed...@gmail.com I agree. There is going to have to be some room for manoeuvre on that. Seddon On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Deryck Chan deryckc...@gmail.comwrote: I think there are a number of regular Wikimania attendees who, for privacy reasons, would not like to use their real names at Wikimania and other offline Wikimedia activities. Enacting this new rule at this point could turn them away, just saying... On 23 April 2012 15:12, Nicholas Michael Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.com wrote: For security reasons, the first and last name MUST be on the badge. Only the username and affiliation can be optional. Those who do not want their real name associated with a username should only provide their first and last. Sincerely, Nicholas Michael Bashour President Wikimedia District of Columbia Washington, DC, USA 2012/4/23 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com Hi, On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Nicholas Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.com wrote: Some users may not be affiliated with any project or chapter, and may not have a username. I suggest First Last Username (optional) Affiliation Actually, I am pretty sure some people do not wish to have their real name printed on the badges alongside their nickname. I can't remember if the question was asked (I hope it was), but the end result should probably be something like: First Last (optional if Username is provided) Username (optional if First Last is provided) Affiliation (if provided) best, Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
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On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Nicholas Michael Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.com wrote: After double checking to make sure, rest assured that anonymity will be protected and you will, as before, have a choice of what you want to display on your badge. I apologize for any confusion :) Thanks for checking Nicholas. My recollection is that Harvard had the same requirements (people must be identified), and the only thing we did then was to hold ready a list where nicknames and real names were matched to provide to Security services should the need have arisen. Best, Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
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BTW, there is no open to a free line? I know that last years we had, to allow people for example to add their chapter\wmf staff, company name and ext'. Not everyone are Wikipedian's. 2012/4/23 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Nicholas Michael Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.com wrote: After double checking to make sure, rest assured that anonymity will be protected and you will, as before, have a choice of what you want to display on your badge. I apologize for any confusion :) Thanks for checking Nicholas. My recollection is that Harvard had the same requirements (people must be identified), and the only thing we did then was to hold ready a list where nicknames and real names were matched to provide to Security services should the need have arisen. Best, Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Badges
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote: BTW, there is no open to a free line? I know that last years we had, to allow people for example to add their chapter\wmf staff, company name and ext'. Not everyone are Wikipedian's. We have added affiliation as an option on the registration form and for the badge. Apologies for the oversight. If you are already registered and want to update it, you can login again (password reset if you need it) to update your details and registration order: https://secure.wikidc.org/wm/reg/user Cheers, Katie 2012/4/23 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Nicholas Michael Bashour nicholasbash...@gmail.com wrote: After double checking to make sure, rest assured that anonymity will be protected and you will, as before, have a choice of what you want to display on your badge. I apologize for any confusion :) Thanks for checking Nicholas. My recollection is that Harvard had the same requirements (people must be identified), and the only thing we did then was to hold ready a list where nicknames and real names were matched to provide to Security services should the need have arisen. Best, Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- Board member, Wikimedia District of Columbia http://wikimediadc.org @wikimediadc / @wikimania2012 ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
Re: [Wikimania-l] Scholarship and early registration
It seems it might be worth getting someone new to help manage *nothing but* the public communication about lodging -- from confirming details to updating wiki pages to answering questions on mailnig lists -- including dorm and hostel options and the variety of hotel options. That may help avoid extra confusion. S. On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:39 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: At least there will be plenty of dorms available if I'm reading the bid, for 24$ a bed with double occupancy. These were at least confirmed already *in the bid* so I guess we can have those up soon, a year later :) Because yeah, this amount per night is what I would ideally spend on a whole Wikimania for staying etc. Best, Lodewijk El 23 de abril de 2012 03:51, James Hare messedroc...@gmail.com escribió: I and every American will concede the U.S. tax code does not make sense. (Technically this is the D.C. tax code we're dealing with, but just another part of the problem.) But now that we have that settled, let me know if you want me to clarify a price. Regards, James Hare On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Joseph Seddon josephsed...@gmail.com wrote: Primarily sensible tax policies :) It is a very annoying practice though. And pointless because rarely is there any indication of what the actual tax is until youve bought something. So you neither know how much your going to pay or have any idea to what to expect from the state. Seddon 2012/4/23 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 2:35 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/4/22 Delphine Ménard notafi...@gmail.com On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 5:32 PM, James Hare messedroc...@gmail.com wrote: The deals we're arranging have no extra charge for dual occupancy. This might sound extremely stupid, but make sure that dual occupancy means 2 beds in a room, not a Queen Size Bed. There are surprisingly few hotels that actually offer two separate beds in a room or their contingent of such rooms is actually quite limited. At the prices that were mentionned, you really want to book all the double bed rooms in those hotels, because very few people will be able to afford a single room. Best, Delphine -- I'm not sure about this... While I haven't done a survey or discovered any references on point, I've stayed in a number of hotels in Washington and throughout the U.S. and almost always encounter two beds in a room as a single occupant. Since I'm commenting anyway, I will say that $149 is a very good rate for hotels in Washington D.C. Point taken on the beds. It must be a silly European habit ;). I am not arguing with the fact that $150 is cheap or expensive for Washington. My point was rather to say that $150/night is not something that many wikip/medians can afford. And while Thomas Dalton denigrates it as a silly American habit to quote prices before taxes, that may be because we have so many different tax domains with different rates. It helps to know the pre-tax amounts (similar to how airline seats are often quoted) for comparison purposes, as the tax component will give you no sense of the accommodations or amenities expected etc. I suppose that may not be commonly understood by travelers from small nations with primarily national tax policies. Heh, I like the small nations part a lot ;). You're right though, at least in Europe, you know the tax, but it's included in the display price. Shopping in the US can quickly become a problem if you max out your available dollar by just adding up numbers without thinking the tax. Delphine -- @notafish NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will get lost. Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - http://blog.notanendive.org Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l -- Samuel Klein identi.ca:sj w:user:sj +1 617 529 4266 ___ Wikimania-l mailing list Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l
