Re: [Wikimania-l] Sad news

[Sam Oyeyele]

I believe the best way to avoid this kind of situation in the future, is to 
have tags specifically to indicate a need for personal space or something.

From what I have read so far, Romaine has done nothing "out of the ordinary" 
(based on my cultural perspective); and he doesn't deserve this kind of 
treatment/sanction/punishment/etc.

I should also state that I have met Romaine a couple of times, and he is indeed 
a very nice man, who always means the best.

Sam.

On 25 Jul 2018 16:41, Deryck Chan  wrote:
This is the second time I remember that the Friendly Space Policy was invoked 
to remove a Wikimania attendee from a situation, presumably because of 
in-person misconduct on their part, where the removal was made public but the 
reason of removal was kept secret.

The problem with such secretive invocations of Friendly Space is that it is 
very difficult, as Reem and others have pointed out, to not see this as a 
punishment.

I understand that it is very difficult to balance the specific, personal 
sensitivities and cultural preferences of several hundred people from different 
cultures. But as this discussion has shown, it is counter-productive to use 
Friendly Space this way, because other Wikimaniacs are left worrying what the 
appropriate behaviour is supposed to be.

I don't know the details of this incident because it wasn't public. But from 
what I know of Romaine from previous Wikimanias, I'm disappointed that this 
incident couldn't have been handled behind the scenes with T and the people 
involved. The fact that Romaine felt the need to go public about his removal as 
an organiser showed mis-handling of process.

Well, actually the previous time was 6 years ago, so maybe we're doing well. We 
did try reforming the friendly space policy around 2013-14 but couldn't agree 
on something better at the time... The doors of improvement always stay open 
for the Wikimedia movement.

--Deryck

On 20 July 2018 at 11:28, James Alexander 
mailto:jalexan...@wikimedia.org>> wrote:
Hey all,

I am, as always, sorry, that this has spilled out into the public sphere more I 
do not think that is ever a good thing as discussion of specific situations 
like this only serves to increase discomfort, make people feel even less safe 
and make victims of everyone.

Event Safety and Friendly Spaces is a top priority of any conference whether 
big or small as well as one of the issues that can be most difficult to deal 
with since it is always a balance of situations, feelings and people who are 
frequently acting in good faith. I can confirm that Trust & Safety was involved 
here and, like most people who are working on Friendly Spaces, we never aim to 
take serious actions if we are able to avoid it. Most issues are dealt with by 
local attendees or organizing volunteers with only short reminders or chats and 
escalate from there only as things become more serious or repetitive. The same 
is true for T who generally doesn't even become involved until it is a larger 
situation. I will admit that whenever a local organizer or volunteer is 
involved the seriousness is increased some because they are, rightly or 
wrongly, seen as in a position of influence and power which amplifies any and 
all issues that arise. It does not, however, change the focus of trying to take 
the least amount of actions possible.

I will be the first to admit (and did when talking to Romaine yesterday) that 
he has done an enormous amount of great work for events and nothing we did was 
meant to demean that even if it felt that way to Romaine. Like any Friendly 
Spaces actions nothing we did was meant as a punishment (even though, again, I 
understand it can feel that way) but was done because we felt they were the 
best thing to do for event safety. I can certainly guarantee that the decision 
was not taken lightly.

As many have noted the entire story is not out in the open and, honestly, won't 
be. I know that won't make everyone happy but unfortunately is almost always 
going to be the case for specific cases. If you want to speak about process 
questions and the like, the team (including myself) is certainly willing to do 
so. We have a table on the 2nd floor or you can grab one of us around the 
conference.

James

James Alexander
Manager, Trust & Safety (Operations)
Wikimedia Foundation



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Re: [Wikimania-l] Volunteers needed for the "Learn to edit" desk at Wikimania

[Sam Oyeyele]

Hello!

I'd be happy help as well. I understand both English and Yoruba at a native 
level.

Sam.



On 26 Jun 2018 19:35, Elena Tonkovidova  wrote:
Hi Ciell,

I am arriving to Cape Town July 18  11:35 AM and departing on July24  09:10 AM.




On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 10:43 AM, giorgio herbie 
mailto:giorgio.her...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, I'd like to help with your idea. I perfectly talk and write in Italian 
(mothertongue), English, French and I've a base level of Spanish, Arabic and 
Russian.
I worked for lots of Italian translations from English to Italian in Wikipedia 
and I obviously know how the editing/creation of a page work!!
Let me know: I really would like to help with your project!


Il Mar 26 Giu 2018, 19:33 Elena Tonkovidova 
mailto:etonkovid...@wikimedia.org>> ha scritto:
I would be happy to help! I've  worked on different aspects/features/lang and 
projects related to editing, so I am looking forward to help with anything 
related to editing or help with learning wiki features.

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Amir E. Aharoni 
mailto:amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il>> wrote:
You'll be surprised how much help you can give to other people who want to 
write in their language if you just try. The languages are different, but the 
buttons are mostly the same :)

בתאריך יום ב׳, 25 ביוני 2018, 21:26, מאת Justice Okai-Allotey 
‏mailto:owulakpa...@gmail.com>>:
Hello Ceil,

I am also interested in volunteering to teach people how to edit Wikipedia. But 
the problem is I only speak English so that means I would be stuck with English 
Wikipedia only.

Best,
Justice.

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 5:24 PM Armine Aghayan 
mailto:arminehagha...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello, I am interested in helping new wiki learners in English.

Best,
Armine

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 9:14 PM, balaji 
mailto:balajijagad...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hello,
I am interested to volunteer for new people. I know English, Tamil 
well. Kindly let me know further details.

Regards,
J. Balaji

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 9:46 PM Gabriel Thullen 
mailto:gabr...@thullen.com>> wrote:
Hello Ciell,

I am attending Wikimania and I am interested in helping out. I am a bi-lingual 
(two mother tongues) French/English, and I can get by in German as well as 
smatterings of Spanish and Italian.

I also do teacher training about using Wikipedia in schools, both as readers 
and as editors.

Best regards
Gabe Thullen


On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 5:33 PM, Ciell Wikipedia 
mailto:ciell.wikipe...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi everyone!

Are you coming to Cape Town this South African winter? And can you spare a 
couple of hours at the conference? Then please join us as a trainer at the 
Learn to Edit desk!

The Learn to Edit desk will (most probably) located near the registration desk 
and will be open from Friday till Sunday, all day. Aim is to help people taking 
their first steps on the wiki: getting an account, exploring the different 
pages and doing an edit or an upload. We'll have tables with laptops, for 
people that did not bring their own, or maybe want to edit on a mobile device 
in the future.

For this I'm in need of Wikimedians who would like to share their knowledge, 
and it would be nice if you...:

  *   Have good knowledge of the English language
  *   Maybe even another language? French, Afrikaans, ...?
  *   Know how to edit Wikipedia, Wikidata and Commons
  *   Know how to explain things in a simple and patient way
  *   Have approximately one and a half/two hours to spare each day.

I'll make us volunteers a scheduale and will take your wishes into account if 
you want to attend certain talks or meetups and are not available. Even if you 
cannot make it every day, please let me know if you want to help, I'm sure I 
can work around that.

Send me an email!

Kind regards, Vriendelijke groet,
Ciell

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