Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Lua scripting enabled today on all wikis

2013-03-14 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Le 2013-03-13 19:38, Guillaume Paumier a écrit : Greetings, As you might have seen on the Wikimedia tech bloghttps://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/03/11/lua-templates-faster-more-flexible-pages/(article included below) or the tech ambassadors

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread Manuel Schneider
Hi, Am 14.03.2013 06:48, schrieb MZMcBride: I've started collecting notes about a possible Wikimedia or Wikimedia Foundation endowment here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Endowment. thanks for collecting these links, they are interesting. Anyway, I didn't fully understand the idea behind the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread Philippe Beaudette
See also: http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Endowment ___ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 phili...@wikimedia.org On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 4:12 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.ukwrote: On 14 March 2013

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread Manuel Schneider
Thanks Andrew and Philippe for your explanation and links. So that is a plan to build a reserve of funds that is so big that the operation can be funded by the capital's gain - interest, dividends... Sounds interesting, even though the endowment must be huge to cover our yearly budgets. Another

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 14 March 2013 13:00, Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch wrote: Thanks Andrew and Philippe for your explanation and links. So that is a plan to build a reserve of funds that is so big that the operation can be funded by the capital's gain - interest, dividends... Yes, although

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread Craig Franklin
Hi Manuel, In my professional experience with endowments (which isn't that extensive, I must confess), the investments are typically extremely conservative and designed to give a steady and reliable long term flow of dividends, rather than shooting for quick capital gains through risky

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Le 2013-03-14 12:12, Andrew Gray a écrit : On 14 March 2013 08:09, Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch wrote: thanks for collecting these links, they are interesting. Anyway, I didn't fully understand the idea behind the page, especially as a non-native speaker I have problems to

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Nederland February activity report

2013-03-14 Thread Sandra Rientjes
The February activity report by Wikimedia Nederland is now available on meta: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/Reports/WIkimedia_Nederland/201302 It is also included as text below. WMNL February report Technical projects · The closing conference of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread MZMcBride
Thomas Dalton wrote: An endowment is a long-term thing. Current low interest rates probably won't last more than a few years. Even so, it would need to be a very large fund, yes. If you can get a return of, say, 2% over inflation (you can get more than that if you're willing to take some risks)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:47 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: (Particularly looking at you, Philippe, given your work on both the strategic plan and the licensing vote. Gerard's Law and all. ;-) For the record, I didn't do the licensing vote. :) Erik gets all the sblame/s credit for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread MZMcBride
Philippe Beaudette wrote: On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:47 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: (Particularly looking at you, Philippe, given your work on both the strategic plan and the licensing vote. Gerard's Law and all. ;-) For the record, I didn't do the licensing vote. :) Erik gets all

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread Theo10011
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:47 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: As I understand it, the yearly annual Wikimedia Foundation budget is about $35 million. It costs about $2.5 million to keep the sites operational for a year. So even if an endowment weren't large enough to cover well over

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread Anders Wennersten
I was marginally involved on this issue two years ago. And by then the focus/priority was to ramp up the Fundraising activities. As this now has been successfully done, I believe this discussion is now much better in timing, and worthwhile to work through I like the idea that the basic

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-14 Thread Kul Wadhwa
Hi Orsolya, On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Orsolya Gyenes gyenes.orso...@wiki.media.hu wrote: Is there a blog post or a press release about it? The blog post is up: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/03/13/wikipedia-zero-wins-2013-sxsw-interactive-activism-award/ -- Kul Wadhwa Head of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia Zero wins!

2013-03-14 Thread Orsolya Gyenes
Thank you! Can't wait to be launched in Hungary! ;) *~Orsolya* 2013/3/14 Kul Wadhwa kwad...@wikimedia.org Hi Orsolya, On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Orsolya Gyenes gyenes.orso...@wiki.media.hu wrote: Is there a blog post or a press release about it? The blog post is up:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread Samuel Klein
Aha, a welcome topic :) MZMcBride writes: I think we need to decide, as a community, whether this is something we want. If it is, we should set up an endowment fund sooner rather than later, so that people willing to donate to such an endowment have a place to put their money, I think. Yes,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread phoebe ayers
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: On 14 March 2013 13:00, Manuel Schneider manuel.schnei...@wikimedia.ch wrote: Thanks Andrew and Philippe for your explanation and links. So that is a plan to build a reserve of funds that is so big that the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread Lisa Gruwell
My team here at the foundation has begun to do a little leg work so that we are ready to go, if the Board should decide to pursue an endowment. We have begun to tip our toes into the world of planned giving and have had conversations with some of our major donors about it. At this point, the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread phoebe ayers
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Lisa Gruwell lgruw...@wikimedia.orgwrote: My team here at the foundation has begun to do a little leg work so that we are ready to go, if the Board should decide to pursue an endowment. We have begun to tip our toes into the world of planned giving and have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread rupert THURNER
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Aha, a welcome topic :) MZMcBride writes: I think we need to decide, as a community, whether this is something we want. If it is, we should set up an endowment fund sooner rather than later, so that people willing to

[Wikimedia-l] GLAM-Wiki 2013 - one month to go!

2013-03-14 Thread Andrew Gray
Hi all, and apologies for crossposting - We've been pushing ahead with the last stages of planning for the GLAM-Wiki conference these past couple of weeks, and I thought I'd send around a reminder that it'll be four weeks from now! The conference will be looking at the work done by Wikimedians

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread MZMcBride
Erik Moeller wrote: On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:47 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: It costs about $2.5 million to keep the sites operational for a year. How did you come up with that number? I used to say $2 million, but Roan recently told me that it had probably gone up since that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread Milos Rancic
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Last year's financial report shows almost exactly $2.5m for Internet hosting. I'm not sure quite what that covers Only data-center usage

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread Samuel Klein
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:45 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: [Hosting...] Then various operational and administrative costs. My finger in the air estimate would be a total of about $4m-$5m. It is important to know how much money is going on essentials and how much on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread Lisa Gruwell
We also have to consider what these costs will be in 5 years and beyond to know really how big an endowment would need to be. This will require some fairly complicated projects, that will most certainly be wrong at some point in time. :) On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Samuel Klein

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF Grants Program Retrospective 2009-2012 published

2013-03-14 Thread Samuel Klein
After reading this more thoroughly: I am deeply impressed. This sort of review should be carried out for all major ongoing projects. For instance, it could be useful to have a similar retrospective on major technical features that have been implemented or formally requested by large Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread Theo10011
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: Only data-center usage (facilities, bandwidth, power). It does not include capital expenditures (servers, storage, network gear, etc.; budgeted at $1.9M in 2012-13) nor ops engineering staffing, nor of course any software

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread rupert THURNER
currently the bylaws say: transfer the money to any 501(c) organisation. wmf would not be allowed to be charitable in switzerland as it is not guaranteed the donors money end up what it was ment for: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Bylaws#Section_2._Distribution_of_Assets. rupert. On Fri,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia (Foundation) endowment

2013-03-14 Thread Michael Snow
On 3/14/2013 10:26 PM, Theo10011 wrote: On Thu, Mar 14, 2013, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: Only data-center usage (facilities, bandwidth, power). It does not include capital expenditures (servers, storage, network gear, etc.; budgeted at $1.9M in 2012-13) nor ops engineering staffing,