Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

Maybe there is, but maybe they are in fact conceptually similar, and have similar problems. You will have to clarify: In what way are primary sources "as in history" more reliable and verifiable? Also, how does "as in history" distinguish them from other primary sources produced by the subject?

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Looking for an Animation artist for Wikipedia Video

You're welcome, Rupika. I'm happy to help, and do hope you will please make an effort towards answering my question: What are the most reputable websites like GoFundMe and WeFunder in India? Best regards, Jim On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Rupika Sharma wrote: > Thank You

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

"Mussolini's speech relating Mussolini's speech contents -> best possible sources"? Even worse than speech themselves. Vito 2018-05-12 0:39 GMT+02:00 Paulo Santos Perneta : > Mussolini's speech relating WWII -> was produced by the subject: to avoid > Mussolini's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

Mussolini's speech relating WWII -> was produced by the subject: to avoid Mussolini's speech relating Mussolini's speech contents -> best possible source you can have. Both kinds are described by the Wikipedias policies as "primary source", and yet they have very different, and often opposed

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

Policies about primary (en.wiki's one for example ) tell a different story and I, for one, concur with them. An extreme example: Mussolini's speech (primary source) will tell you WWII was caused by the Allies, any history book

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

Isn't there an endemic confusion in the Wikipedias between what are primary sources (produced by the subject) and primary sources (original sources, as in History)? While the first should be avoided at all costs, the second should be preferred over secondary sources most of the time, as they

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Dozens of subscription attempts at unblock-pt-l https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/admindb/unblock-pt-l Paulo 2018-05-09 11:23 GMT+01:00 Sam Walton : > I take it back, we're now having the same issue with the Wikipedia-Library > mailing list, and the edit filter mailing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikitongues User Group

Hello, Does this mean that Wikitongues will work to change it's licence to be compatible with Wikimedia projects? Because now their content is under CC BY-SA-NC which is incompatible with Wikimedia projects. Will the future videos produced by Wikitongues be under CC BY-SA? I assume that if

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikitongues User Group

Congratulations! This is indeed a big achievement and would go long way to take forward the movement for linguistic diversity! Best Wishes Rupika Sharma Co-Founder Punjabi Wikimedians On Fri, May 11, 2018, 10:09 PM Kirill Lokshin wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I'm very

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Igbo Wikimedians User Group

Excellent news! It was a pleasure to meet Blossom at the Wikimedia Conference a year ago, and the activities that Blossom, Tochi, and Uzoma advertise on Twitter look very promising and inspiring, too. If any of you are coming to Wikimania, I'd love to meet you! בתאריך יום ו׳, 11 במאי 2018,

[Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Wikiesfera Grupo de Usuarixs

Hi everyone! I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has recognized [1] the Wikiesfera Grupo de Usuarixs [2] as a Wikimedia User Group. The group aims to identify and correct gaps in knowledge representation, and to increase the number of editors who belong to minorities,

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] This Month in GLAM: April 2018

*This Month in GLAM* is a monthly newsletter documenting recent happenings within the GLAM project, such as content donations, residencies, events and more. GLAM is an acronym of *G*alleries, *L*ibraries, *A*rchives and *M*useums. You can find more information on the project at glamwiki.org.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

When we say we want to keep our current requirements, we need to ask ourselves if we want to continue to be an encyclopedia written by Westerners for Westerners. If that's the case, fine. But that's not what we are claiming to be... JP On Fri, May 11, 2018, 09:30 Cameron,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

the speaker of a traditional oral story isnt the primary source there is no original research in the story they are just retelling with audible pen rather than a ink pen, the primary source is somewhere back in time. The almost identical similarities that traditional oral knowledge have with that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

I confirm that this is not an isolated concept to Australia. I heard the same thing about being connected to the place, starting the story by telling who your family is, etc. from Canadian indigenous peoples. JP On Fri, May 11, 2018, 09:26 Gnangarra, wrote: > speaking

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Was macht dich diese Woche glücklich? / What's making you happy this week? (Week of 15 April 2018)

Thank you Sidney. We are happy that folks at WMF takes issues of concerns very seriously and look for ways to address them. Regards, Isaac On May 9, 2018 10:47 PM, "Sydney Poore" wrote: > Hello Mz7, > > The Anti-Harassment Tools team who is doing this work really

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

Hoi, "The summary of the canon of knowledge".. Wow.. I just tweeted that thanks to the German Wikipedia we know about 20% more members of Parliament from Chad. Now we know about 12. My #AfricaGap project will follow developments around African national politicians. We suck when Africa is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

I do feel Jane summed it up well: Because of our rules on RS, Wikipedia can only reflect society. As long as society continues to overlook women, it will be evident in Wikipedia. In my work with WomRed, enough references were the prevailing issue. We have a list of women who need articles, but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

Well audio recordings or video recordings of oral histories and traditions come to mind. However I'm not sure how comfortable I am with an encyclopedia using such sources. Now as an aspiring historian (Only one semester left on my degree), I use primary sources quite often for papers, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

speaking solely from experience with Indigenous Australian knowledge where knowledge is passed orally across generations. The passing of knowledge is connected to place, family, and heritage when an indigenous person speak they first speak of their heritage, of their connect to the place, and of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

What are the non-Western methods? בתאריך יום ו׳, 11 במאי 2018, 15:49, מאת Gnangarra ‏: > thats the bias we dont accept knowledge as genuine or authorative until its > been established by a westerner using western techniques. The whole point > of this discussion is that such

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

thats the bias we dont accept knowledge as genuine or authorative until its been established by a westerner using western techniques. The whole point of this discussion is that such a process invariably leads to bias, to solve bias we need to shift our acceptance to alternative cultural methods

Re: [Wikimedia-l] How to deal with spam subscription to mailing list

Yep, a lot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Possible_spambots_targeting_Wikimedia_mailing_lists Yours truly, Rehman From: Wikimedia-l on behalf of Gnangarra Sent:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

Yes, and we use those books and journal articles as sources. If they are written by an acknowledged expert or are peer reviewed, we may consider them reliable sources. I don’t think this is what this discussion is about. Cheers, Peter -Original Message- From: Wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

we can, its rather simple. We quote the information and attribute it to the source. Within oral cultures certain people with certain authorities on different subjects. When we record the spoken word we record the authority under which they speak. As the knowledge is transferred we also know

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

It you are there, it's what they do in the evening. Listen, record, transcribe, compare versions from different bands. That comparison is a measure of notability and reliability. Fred - Original Message - From: Natacha Rault To: Wikimedia Mailing List

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems

> If not written, how would they be referenced and verified? Could they possibly be registered in an oral form? Could we invent a way of integrating oral sources? We already use radio or television sources (also not written...). The only problem with oral sources like stories passed on