Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-23 Thread Benjamin Ikuta
It is disturbing that you would even consider overriding the community in such a massive way. On Aug 23, 2019, at 9:44 PM, James Heilman wrote: > The board will be discussing this of course. We do not have a group > position at this point in time. > > J > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 12:47

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-23 Thread James Heilman
The board will be discussing this of course. We do not have a group position at this point in time. J On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 12:47 PM Jeff Hawke wrote: > James > > Thanks for that. As a member of the Board, would you clarify the Board's > position on whether it is prepared to see the final

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-23 Thread Jeff Hawke
James Thanks for that. As a member of the Board, would you clarify the Board's position on whether it is prepared to see the final Recommendations implemented irrespective of any disagreement from the community? Jeff On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 12:05 PM James Heilman wrote: > I for one do not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Not in the other language, Wiktionary edition"

2019-08-23 Thread Rajeeb Dutta
Thanks Amir for your great contribution once again. Best Regards, Rajeeb. (U: Marajozkee) Sent from my iPhone > On 23-Aug-2019, at 9:11 PM, Shani Evenstein wrote: > > Amir, you rock! Thanks so much. > > This came up as somehing that could be helpful during the Wiktionary & > Wikisource panel

Re: [Wikimedia-l] "Not in the other language, Wiktionary edition"

2019-08-23 Thread Shani Evenstein
Amir, you rock! Thanks so much. This came up as somehing that could be helpful during the Wiktionary & Wikisource panel at the Education space. Some panelists mentioned tgey are wasting a lot time curating lists, so thought it coukd be helpful. Forwarding to Wikimedia-l as many Wikrionary and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-23 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
Hello James, If we can do that together, it is not evident from the timeline sent by Nicole. How can we " collaborate with each other", "the wider community engage with the proposals that have been made", and we together "develop a final document that the majority of us in all parts of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-23 Thread James Heilman
To clarify on this, yes we need to make changes as a movement, but we need to do so in collaboration with each other. My hope is that the wider community will engage with the proposals that have been made. And that we can develop a final document that the majority of us in all parts of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-23 Thread Paulo Santos Perneta
Except that this time they don't "hope that all of you will be a part of this next step in our evolution", since Wikimedia community input ceases around 15 September in what has been constantly defined as a very preliminary draft, with very low to null engagement from the WGs, and next time we'll

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-23 Thread James Heilman
I for one do not agree with Jan-Bart's prior position. James On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 4:40 AM Jeff Hawke wrote: > Paulo, > > You suggest that "things will not get pretty if the Wikimedia community > does not approve some of the recommendations". You may recall that just > five years ago,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal forced HTTPS backdoor in Kazakhstan

2019-08-23 Thread RhinosF1
link works fine for me Yury On Fri, 23 Aug 2019 at 10:29, Yury Bulka wrote: > I'm getting a 404:( > > John Erling Blad writes: > > > Google, Apple, Mozilla move to block Kazakh surveillance system > > > > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

2019-08-23 Thread Jeff Hawke
Paulo, You suggest that "things will not get pretty if the Wikimedia community does not approve some of the recommendations". You may recall that just five years ago, Jan-Bart de Vreede, then chair of the WMF Board, expressed the opinion

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal forced HTTPS backdoor in Kazakhstan

2019-08-23 Thread Yury Bulka
I'm getting a 404:( John Erling Blad writes: > Google, Apple, Mozilla move to block Kazakh surveillance system > > https://www.reuters.com/article/us-kazakhstan-internet-surveillance/google-apple-mozilla-move-to-block-kazakh-surveillance-system-idUSKCN1VB17Q >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Universal forced HTTPS backdoor in Kazakhstan

2019-08-23 Thread John Erling Blad
Google, Apple, Mozilla move to block Kazakh surveillance system https://www.reuters.com/article/us-kazakhstan-internet-surveillance/google-apple-mozilla-move-to-block-kazakh-surveillance-system-idUSKCN1VB17Q ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: