[Wikimedia-l] Re: Osama and Ziyad

2023-10-09 Thread Lauren Worden
can that are posed about the team?s work to >>>> talktohumanrig...@wikimedia.org. Depending on the case,the human rights >>>> team may provide ways to help or avenues to connect with organizations >>>> who are supporting. They may also be able to advise when silen

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Osama and Ziyad

2023-10-05 Thread Lauren Worden
Dear WMF Human Rights Team: I would like some clarification on your statement below. In particular, does your stated approach allow you to follow the best practices described at https://freedomhouse.org/2023/summit-for-democracy-political-prisoners to, e.g., "meet regularly with family members of

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Launch of Justapedia

2023-09-11 Thread Lauren Worden
The only specific and non-contradictory complaints about Wikipedia bias I can find on https://justapedia.org/wiki/Justapedia:Justapedia_Foundation are climate change and COVID-19, which are areas in which I think Wikipedia excels. The complaints about politics go in both directions. Perhaps Atsme

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Attribution of specific Wikipedia articles as sources of a LLM's output (Was: Bing-ChatGPT)

2023-09-10 Thread Lauren Worden
s and LLMs. > > On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 12:12 PM Lauren Worden > wrote: > [...] >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 1:20 AM Kimmo Virtanen >> wrote: >> > >> >> Or, maybe just require an open disclosure of where the bot pulled from >>

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Google not indexing Wikisource for last few years now.

2023-08-01 Thread Lauren Worden
Has anyone tried telling the Google Search Console to index all the Wikisource language domains? Presumably a Foundation sysadmin would need to add the ownership verification tokens to do so: https://search.google.com/search-console/welcome -LW On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 7:53 AM Dušan Kreheľ wrote:

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Terms of Use Updated!

2023-06-11 Thread Lauren Worden
Dušan, please see https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/4.0_upgrade_guidelines > Upgrading from prior versions to 4.0 > > * New content: > > ** Who will own the rights? > *** If the publisher, then can simply apply 4.0 as specified above. > *** If the contributors, then need need to require they

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Publicpolicy] How the UK Online Safety Bill might impact Wikimedia

2023-05-15 Thread Lauren Worden
Can we have a "San Francisco Tea Party" telling the UK government that Wikimedia projects would rather block access to the United Kingdom than comply with their misguided requirements? > -- Forwarded message - > From: > Date: Mon, May 15, 2023, 2:56 AM > Subject: [Publicpolicy]

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikianswers Proposal

2023-05-15 Thread Lauren Worden
Really? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=WNBA_Finals=history On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 3:19 AM Joseph Fox wrote: > > On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 11:05, Lauren Worden wrote: >> >> > user-editable cache of multimodal answers >> >> Apologies, but that's a

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikianswers Proposal

2023-05-15 Thread Lauren Worden
> user-editable cache of multimodal answers Apologies, but that's a terrible idea. Who wants to edit keeping up to date, for example, "teams currently in the playoffs"? In any case, I feel obligated to share this with the list: https://www.anthropic.com/index/100k-context-windows Anthropic

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation Form 990 for FY 2021-2022 now on-wiki

2023-05-11 Thread Lauren Worden
Flo and Andreas, Have you asked these questions to ask...@wikimedia.org? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Community_Affairs_Committee/2023-05-18_Conversation_with_Trustees#Submit_your_questions -LW On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 12:22 PM Florence Devouard wrote: > > Speaking of

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 23 March: Invitation to Open Community Call on ChatGPT, generative AI, and Wikimedia

2023-04-02 Thread Lauren Worden
On Sun, Apr 2, 2023 at 5:40 PM Erik Moeller wrote: > > I can't comment on the hardware requirements, but I would note that in > addition to the llama.cpp repository > (https://github.com/ggerganov/llama.cpp), which currently focuses on > LLaMA/Alpaca, there are other efforts to reduce the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 23 March: Invitation to Open Community Call on ChatGPT, generative AI, and Wikimedia

2023-04-02 Thread Lauren Worden
On Sat, Apr 1, 2023 at 10:18 PM rupert THURNER wrote: > On Sat, Apr 1, 2023 at 11:36 PM Erik Moeller wrote: > > > > ... I am confident (based on, e.g., the recent > > results with Alpaca: https://crfm.stanford.edu/2023/03/13/alpaca.html) > > that the performance of smaller models will continue

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 23 March: Invitation to Open Community Call on ChatGPT, generative AI, and Wikimedia

2023-04-01 Thread Lauren Worden
Erik, I see your point now and agree with you. But doesn't it seem like obtaining a perfect license is at present the enemy of the urgent good of bringing a concerted effort to bear on problems that are clearly detrimental to project integrity? I haven't been able to tell whether any of the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 23 March: Invitation to Open Community Call on ChatGPT, generative AI, and Wikimedia

2023-03-30 Thread Lauren Worden
On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 4:28 AM Erik Moeller wrote: > If you want to impose _additional restrictions_ on a person for stuff > they download from you, that actually requires proactive agreement > from the user to those restrictions at the time they download the > thing. > > If you don't obtain

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Bing-ChatGPT

2023-03-29 Thread Lauren Worden
On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 1:04 PM Felipe Schenone wrote: > > FYI, there's an open letter requesting a 6-month pause on AI development, [ > https://futureoflife.org/open-letter/pause-giant-ai-experiments/ ] with > reasonable arguments (in my opinion) and signed by several big names too. First, I

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 23 March: Invitation to Open Community Call on ChatGPT, generative AI, and Wikimedia

2023-03-29 Thread Lauren Worden
On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 1:50 PM Jan Ainali wrote: > > I think it is important to, as early as possible, deter all these attempts to > weaken the concept of "open" and that we as a movement need to take a hard > stance against them. > These proprietary licenses do not fit the spirit of sharing

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 23 March: Invitation to Open Community Call on ChatGPT, generative AI, and Wikimedia

2023-03-28 Thread Lauren Worden
. >> And thank's a lot for organizing the meeting yesterday! >> >> Paulo >> >> Samuel Klein escreveu no dia quinta, 23/03/2023 à(s) >> 21:11: >> >>> The Bau lab (that produced ROME) is great; see their update MEMIT >>> https://memit.baulab.info scalin

[Wikimedia-l] Re: 23 March: Invitation to Open Community Call on ChatGPT, generative AI, and Wikimedia

2023-03-23 Thread Lauren Worden
On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 12:20 PM Samuel Klein wrote: > Thanks Yael and all for hosting this! A great conversation which we > should revisit regularly. > Yes, I hope that this can be a (monthly?) regularly occurring event given the current state of very substantial advancements and improvements

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Bing-ChatGPT

2023-03-22 Thread Lauren Worden
Google BARD, announced this week, also tries and fails to perform attribution and verification: https://old.reddit.com/r/Bard/comments/11yeegu/google_bard_claims_bard_has_already_been_shut/jd77wpo/ BARD also produces lengthy passages from its training data verbatim without elicitation:

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Bing-ChatGPT

2023-03-21 Thread Lauren Worden
On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 9:28 PM Kim Bruning via Wikimedia-l wrote: > On Sun, Mar 19, 2023 at 02:48:12AM -0700, Lauren Worden wrote: > > > > LLMs absolutely do encode a verbatim copy of their > > training data, which can be produced intact with little effort. > &

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Bing-ChatGPT

2023-03-19 Thread Lauren Worden
On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 3:49 PM Erik Moeller wrote: > > ...With image-generating models like Stable Diffusion, it's been found > that the models sometimes generate output nearly indistinguishable > from source material [1]. I don't know if similar studies have been > undertaken for