Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

2013-08-20 Thread Zack Exley
Sue: I also hate the idea of premiums. We will never want to do lame premiums. But there may in the future be a cool thing to offer with donations, who knows -- so why limit ourselves by saying we will never ever do something? Zack On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Sue Gardner

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

2013-08-20 Thread Peter Coombe
Yes MZ, agreed that this is would be good to have documented on meta. In fact this has been raised in our internal discussion already. At the moment one of my side projects is a major overhaul of the fundraising pages on meta, and I plan to incorporate aims and principles into this prominently.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

2013-08-18 Thread MZMcBride
Matthew Walker wrote: In the past days there's been discussion internal to the fundraising team -- it appears that the 'fundraising principles' I thought we held are not uniformly held by others. In this particular instance it seems that gift premiums are not entirely off the table. I've been told

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

2013-08-14 Thread Matthew Walker
Technology limitations aside, there are two things we throw around in the team a lot; that we should not give the impression that a user *must* pay to use a WMF property, and that we will never ever do gift premiums. This sounds a bit like Fundraising principles or similar. Are these documented

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

2013-08-14 Thread Nathan
YMMV, but I'd prefer if the solid value returned from my donation went to someone in more dire need of it - i.e. if my donation could be used to directly improve access for others who may not enjoy it. Indirectly any donation to Wikimedia fits into the vein of sustaining access to project content,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

2013-08-14 Thread Sue Gardner
A supportive anecdote for you, Matt: Back in 2008, I got toured through the fundraising operation of one of the major American public broadcasters. It had a large fundraising team that included a group dedicated solely to tracking and shipping premiums. Its boss advised us to avoid going down the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

2013-08-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 August 2013 20:39, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: YMMV, but I'd prefer if the solid value returned from my donation went to someone in more dire need of it - i.e. if my donation could be used to directly improve access for others who may not enjoy it. Indirectly any donation to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

2013-08-08 Thread Svavar Kjarrval
On 07/08/13 07:32, Jane Darnell wrote: If a template exists for specific dump-creation, it might be useful to have this be a paid service, where the product is not necessarily one dump on a dvd, but a hyperlink to a specific dump that can be updated periodically (once a year maybe?). Doesn't

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

2013-08-07 Thread Jane Darnell
Actually, an offline version of WIkipedia, though useful in remote locations and for secure-internet areas like schools (or prisons), is probably not as desirable as copies of specific content, such as a Wikipedia dump of the Paleontology portal or something like that. For people who wish to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

2013-08-06 Thread Tobias
On 08/06/2013 06:01 PM, Ziyuan Yao wrote: Dear All, Besides asking for direct donations, there is another way that can potentially help Wikipedia's fundraising: There was also the idea of having beside the free App an (nearly identical) App-with-donation that is not free but costs a few

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

2013-08-06 Thread Ziyuan Yao
The key point in my original idea is that you make buyers believe that they're not just giving money away, but also getting some solid value in return. A Wikipedia DVD is a kind of solid value. On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:28 AM, Tobias church.of.emacs...@googlemail.comwrote: On 08/06/2013 06:01

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

2013-08-06 Thread Kevin Wayne Williams
Op 2013/08/06 9:40, Ziyuan Yao schreef: The key point in my original idea is that you make buyers believe that they're not just giving money away, but also getting some solid value in return. A Wikipedia DVD is a kind of solid value. More like a complete set of Wikipedia Blu-Rays. I forget the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

2013-08-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
We did it in the past, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/DVD Kevin Wayne Williams, 06/08/2013 18:52: Op 2013/08/06 9:40, Ziyuan Yao schreef: The key point in my original idea is that you make buyers believe that they're not just giving money away, but also getting some solid value in return. A

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

2013-08-06 Thread Matthew Walker
Ziyuan, Thanks for the idea! :) Technology limitations aside, there are two things we throw around in the team a lot; that we should not give the impression that a user *must* pay to use a WMF property, and that we will never ever do gift premiums. From my perspective buying a DVD set sounds

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

2013-08-06 Thread Richard Farmbrough
enwiki-20130708-pages-articles.xml.bz2 http://dumps.wikimedia.org/enwiki/20130708/enwiki-20130708-pages-articles.xml.bz2 9.3 GB - a double sided single layer DVD (9.4gb). The images would be more challenging. On 06/08/2013 17:52, Kevin Wayne Williams wrote: More like a complete set of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

2013-08-06 Thread David Gerard
On 6 August 2013 18:46, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.org wrote: In addition what use would giving a donor a DVD set serve? They clearly already have access to the site -- with the caveat that some countries have restricted use restrictions from the local government. If instead we are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

2013-08-06 Thread MZMcBride
Matthew Walker wrote: Technology limitations aside, there are two things we throw around in the team a lot; that we should not give the impression that a user *must* pay to use a WMF property, and that we will never ever do gift premiums. Hi Matt. This sounds a bit like Fundraising principles or