Re: [Wikimedia-l] CFAAA+CALEA vs. SOPA+PIPA: the amortization

2013-04-15 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Hello, Could you provide me relevant links so I may understand this topic? While I have superficiel knowledge of SOPA and PIPA, I have no idea what CFAAA and CALEA are. Le 2013-04-14 01:25, James Salsman a écrit : Jan-Bart, I reserve the right to speak with anyone at any time on any

Re: [Wikimedia-l] CFAAA+CALEA vs. SOPA+PIPA: the amortization

2013-04-15 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Le 2013-04-14 02:44, Marc A. Pelletier a écrit : On 04/13/2013 07:25 PM, James Salsman wrote: In short, the CFAA amendments alone would likely cost readers, editors, and the Foundation more than 500 times as much as SOPA or PIPA could have cost, under what I believe is a very reasonable set of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] CFAAA+CALEA vs. SOPA+PIPA: the amortization

2013-04-15 Thread FastLizard4
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [replies inline with quoted message(s)] On 4/15/2013 12:31 AM, Mathieu Stumpf wrote: Le 2013-04-14 02:44, Marc A. Pelletier a écrit : {{cn}} -- Marc Could you tell me what is {{cn}} standing for, please? {{cn}}

Re: [Wikimedia-l] CFAAA+CALEA vs. SOPA+PIPA: the amortization

2013-04-15 Thread Mathieu Stumpf
Le 2013-04-15 09:39, FastLizard4 a écrit : {{cn}} https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Cn is the template on the English Wikipedia that inserts the little [citation needed] text. So, in other words, Marc is asking for James to provide sources to back up his (James') claim. - -- Ok, thank

Re: [Wikimedia-l] CFAAA+CALEA vs. SOPA+PIPA: the amortization

2013-04-15 Thread Dan Rosenthal
Mathieu: CFAA is the federal Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, which criminalizes among other things unauthorized access or exceeding authorized access of a protected system, and is found at 18 U.S.C. 1030. CALEA is the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act, which is a federal wiretapping

[Wikimedia-l] CFAAA+CALEA vs. SOPA+PIPA: the amortization

2013-04-13 Thread James Salsman
Hi Garfield, Would you please find out how much the CFAA and CALEA amendements would be expected to cost readers, editors, and the Foundation compared to what SOPA or PIPA would have cost if they had passed, and let the wikimedia-l and advocacy advisors lists know? Best regards, James Salsman

Re: [Wikimedia-l] CFAAA+CALEA vs. SOPA+PIPA: the amortization

2013-04-13 Thread Jan-Bart de Vreede
Hey James So while we have actively started looking for a new ED I am happy to report that Sue is still on the job ! Which means you do not have to fill in for the position and tell Garfield what to do :) On a more realistic tone: my gut feeling is that you are asking an impossible question

Re: [Wikimedia-l] CFAAA+CALEA vs. SOPA+PIPA: the amortization

2013-04-13 Thread James Salsman
Jan-Bart, I reserve the right to speak with anyone at any time on any subject. Thank you for your reply: my gut feeling is that you are asking an impossible question (and aware of this) and I assume that Garfield has much better things to do, but I guess if Sue wants to sound time on this,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] CFAAA+CALEA vs. SOPA+PIPA: the amortization

2013-04-13 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 04/13/2013 07:25 PM, James Salsman wrote: In short, the CFAA amendments alone would likely cost readers, editors, and the Foundation more than 500 times as much as SOPA or PIPA could have cost, under what I believe is a very reasonable set of assumptions. {{cn}} -- Marc

Re: [Wikimedia-l] CFAAA+CALEA vs. SOPA+PIPA: the amortization

2013-04-13 Thread James Salsman
Marc Pelletier wrote: On 04/13/2013 07:25 PM, James Salsman wrote: In short, the CFAA amendments alone would likely cost readers, editors, and the Foundation more than 500 times as much as SOPA or PIPA could have cost, under what I believe is a very reasonable set of assumptions. {{cn}}