Re: [Wikimedia-l] Contents of annual reports from Wikimedia affiliate organizations

2018-12-08 Thread Pine W
Some further thoughts about reporting: * Many affiliates already produce quantitative and qualitative information for their grant reports. I would like to see much of that same information about inputs and outputs included in annual reports, both for Global Metrics and for custom metrics. * I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Contents of annual reports from Wikimedia affiliate organizations

2018-11-30 Thread Kalman Hajdu
I 100% agree with Pine. I have read very impressive annual reports without any factual data. This 4 point as a small spreadsheet will specify the reports and make there comparative. With regards On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 4:11 AM Pine W wrote: > Hello, > > This email is mainly addressed to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Contents of annual reports from Wikimedia affiliate organizations

2018-11-30 Thread Jane Darnell
As a learning organization, it is already the case that the reporting burden is often higher than the invested resources. It's been that way for years. Fortunately, we have had the luck over the years to attract dedicated volunteers all over the world to help out with the burden or give feedback

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Contents of annual reports from Wikimedia affiliate organizations

2018-11-29 Thread Jane Darnell
Pine, I totally agree with "I would like to see more peer leadership from affiliates and less reliance on WMF for both grantmaking and trademarks." I would hope that this type of thing is starting to show up in the larger chapter/thorg/user group plans. I like the idea of custom metrics,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Contents of annual reports from Wikimedia affiliate organizations

2018-11-29 Thread Bence Damokos
Dear Pine, Just as a thought experiment try to think through how your proposal would work for an all-volunteer organisation: A small group of volunteers starts some programme, and at the same time they hire a contractor (issue an ad, check CVs, hold interviews, draw up a contract, monitor and pay

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Contents of annual reports from Wikimedia affiliate organizations

2018-11-29 Thread Pine W
I'm going to respond to both Chris and Gerard in one email. Gerard: * I agree that it's possible to over-bureaucratize projects, including small projects. This is one of the reasons that I think that performance analysis should mostly be done with staff or contractor time rather than volunteer

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Contents of annual reports from Wikimedia affiliate organizations

2018-11-29 Thread Chris Keating
Hi Pine, Standardising reporting across affiliates is an attractive-sounding idea in theory but turns out to be very difficult in practice. A few issues that spring to mind: - User Groups are meant to be a low-barrier-to-entry, lightweight form of affiliation. Basically you need 10 people and a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Contents of annual reports from Wikimedia affiliate organizations

2018-11-29 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Wonderful that you want to burden people with new standards. I have had dealings with funding of the WMF. I delivered on time and for what I delivered to work, the WMF had to do its stuff on time. They did not, my project petered out and THEN they required me to jump through hoops

[Wikimedia-l] Contents of annual reports from Wikimedia affiliate organizations

2018-11-28 Thread Pine W
Hello, This email is mainly addressed to Affcom and WMF but I would like to hear others' comments also. Some background information regarding the context for this email: the recently published annual reports from user groups reminded me of some issues that I first considered a few years ago. I