Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimédia France - informations sur la situation actuelle

2017-07-14 Thread Devouard (gmail)
Hi Anders I LOVE your email. I forward it to our public list. Thanks Florence Le 13/07/2017 à 17:37, Anders Wennersten a écrit : I LOVE the Wikipedia way of working - result-oriented, respectful dialogues around facts I HATE power-games and misuse of given authority, both in general in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimédia France - informations sur la situation actuelle

2017-07-13 Thread Anders Wennersten
I LOVE the Wikipedia way of working - result-oriented, respectful dialogues around facts I HATE power-games and misuse of given authority, both in general in life and especially in the Wikimedia movement I ADMIRE the functionaries in France who have stood firm in their own integrity and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimédia France - informations sur la situation actuelle

2017-07-13 Thread Lodewijk
> Thanks for sharing - it is good to see WMF is on top of this. I agree it > is not very helpful to descend into a discussion about details of who said > what when, but rather focus on the big picture. My hope is that the members > can work towards a healthy association as soon as possible - and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimédia France - informations sur la situation actuelle

2017-07-13 Thread Natacha Rault
Der Lodewijk, Thank you for the message, the threshold has indeed been reached, and the WMFR board has communicated that they will have the GA asap. The official number of people requesting the GA is of 73 as of now. The emphasis on democratic chapters is indeed important. People are now

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimédia France - informations sur la situation actuelle

2017-07-13 Thread Lodewijk
Thanks Natacha. I see that 70 members have requested a General Assembly to be held. I remember from WMFR's bylaws that 25% of the membership can force the board to call a General Assembly, or do it themselves. Is this request formulated in such a manner? What is the required threshold? This is a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimédia France - informations sur la situation actuelle

2017-07-13 Thread Natacha Rault
Dear All, As some anglophone wikimedians wanted an English version, we have translated the time line in English concerning what is happening in the French chapter, although surely we still have to clarify and correct mistakes. You can find it here:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimédia France - informations sur la situation actuelle

2017-07-13 Thread Pierre-Selim
Thank you Samuel and Chris for this work of transparency you guys have done. I'm so sad to see how the board of Wikimedia France, my former fellows, can lie and libel amazing people such as Caroline, Christophe or Florence. Sincerely, Le 13 juillet 2017 à 04:03, Samuel Klein

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimédia France - informations sur la situation actuelle

2017-07-12 Thread Samuel Klein
Thank you kindly, Florence, for this note and update. {{refnec}}s for everyone. Katy: ! I tried translating the letter (literary NLP?) into English, posted here for commentary and annotation: https://medium.com/@metasj/a-recent-letter-from-wmfrs- board-annotated-d8e19c2bc0b (As it is not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimédia France - informations sur la situation actuelle

2017-07-12 Thread Devouard (gmail)
Yesterday, a few hours after the whole membership of Wikimedia France was served that litterature masterpiece from its board (ED), someone told me : "any wikipedian reading that letter will add a {{refnec}} at the end of all sentences" Since I was mentionned, I would like to renew my

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimédia France - informations sur la situation actuelle

2017-07-12 Thread Samuel Klein
How grotesque. Don't sue your own members. Don't publicly trash a former staff member: it is obscene. Samuel, Émeric, Édouard, Marie-Alice, Florian: Please recant and retract this entire unfortunate statement. It is beneath you all, particularly the name-calling and conspiracy theory. Talk to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimédia France - informations sur la situation actuelle

2017-07-12 Thread Natacha Rault
Hi Chris, Great, thank you! I’ve integrated some parts as another person was translating this morning. A first version of the TL in english should be made available today. Kind regards Natacha > Le 12 juil. 2017 à 10:14, Chris Keating a écrit : > >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimédia France - informations sur la situation actuelle

2017-07-12 Thread Chris Keating
2017-07-12 1:34 GMT+01:00 Natacha Rault : > So this is the translated part stopping in may 2017 (recent developments not > included) I had a bit of spare time this morning so I've translated part of May (below). 4 May 2017 Explanation of the number of resignations from the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimédia France - informations sur la situation actuelle

2017-07-11 Thread Katy Love
Hi Chris, hi all, I am forwarding the email I sent to a French Wikimedia community mailing list . I include the message first in English and then French. Dear all, This is a message from the Wikimedia Foundation. We’re the non-profit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimédia France - informations sur la situation actuelle

2017-07-11 Thread Nathan
Everything else aside, the apparent fact that the ED of WMFr hired her husband in any capacity is a clear sign of serious dysfunction and poor governance controls. If the association has had half its board resign and is accusing Anthere and Christophe Henner of misconduct, it suggests that WMFr's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimédia France - informations sur la situation actuelle

2017-07-11 Thread Natacha Rault
So this is the translated part stopping in may 2017 (recent developments not included) Sorry for the presentation, not really pretty, and surely a lot of mistakes left: it has not been reviewed. Natacha / Nattes à chat Title This website takes its inspiration from the one developped by Molly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimédia France - informations sur la situation actuelle

2017-07-11 Thread Craig Franklin
I am not closely familiar with the issuse at WMFR right now, and I would suggest that those here that speak French probably already have a strong view on this, and those who do not probably do not know enough to have an educated view on what is happening. With that being said, if WMFR staff are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimédia France - informations sur la situation actuelle

2017-07-11 Thread Natacha Rault
Hi James, We are working on a translation, but are quite exhausted as recent events develop. Sorry for the delay… Nattes à chat / Natacha > Le 12 juil. 2017 à 00:47, James Heilman a écrit : > > Chris do we have an EN copy of the timeline. > > 2017-07-11 16:25 GMT-06:00

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimédia France - informations sur la situation actuelle

2017-07-11 Thread Chris Keating
I thought this email from Wikimedia France was worth wider circulation within the movement. Topics covered include: * How WMFr feels community members are "destabilising and denigrating" the chapter, and how Wikimedia France is responding by expelling some of those people from the organisation,